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    Chris TickTock
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      Hi Guys,

      I am thinking of making a cutter for experimental reasons. The issue is the cutter has to be made from silver steel which after machining is hardened and tempered. But the tip of the cutter is reduced to 2mm wide and a 1mm half diameter milled into it. The 1mm is the issue I think but as I don't have a 1mm yet don't know so am asking. The depth of metal at the tip will be roughly 3mm.

      The cutter is designed to round edges on steel…whether it will work or not don't worry about that as it is as I said an experiment. But can I mill the 1mm half Dia, if not is there an alternative way.

      Regards

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      Chris TickTock
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        @christicktock
        #496283
        roy entwistle
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          @royentwistle24699

          Try it and see cheeky

          #496284
          John Olsen
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            @johnolsen79199

            File it with a round swiss needle file.

            #496285
            Peter Hall
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              @peterhall61789

              Drill a 1mm hole and file it back.

              Pete

              #496287
              Perko7
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                @perko7

                Shape the end but leave it a bit longer, then drill a 1mm hole near the end and grind or mill away the bit you don't want.

                #496328
                SillyOldDuffer
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                  @sillyoldduffer

                  No problem buying 1mm end-mills if you want to have a go but they're easily broken.

                  Tricky to use because home machines are rarely fast enough : a 1mm end-mill should be run at 10,000 rpm or faster. 50000rpm would be good!

                  When feed rate exceeds cutting speed, the work snaps the cutter. And it's difficult to keep the feed-rate low enough to suit a 1mm end-mill spinning at only 3000 rpm. Low rpm on small cutters and drills make them sensitive to any hint of operator clumsiness.

                  At 10000+ rpm, the end-mill cuts fast enough for the feed-rate to become manageable, otherwise develop a delicate touch! Worth looking at the spindle motors used for engraving machines and CNC if a lot of small diameter work is planned 12000rpm seems typical, faster the better.

                  I'd make the occasional tool described it by drilling a 1mm hole and grinding off as the other posts say.

                  When the cutter is made, note that it too will work best at high rpm. If finish is poor, try speeding up and/or reducing feed-rate.

                  Don't have much experience of delicate cutting work like this. Much breaking, bending and poor finish when I try. More practice might fix my problems. Can you report back how your experiment works out? I might learn summat!

                  Dave

                  #496335
                  DiogenesII
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                    @diogenesii

                    ..and maybe try and give it some front clearance (angle).. it need only be small..

                    #496337
                    Gary Wooding
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                      @garywooding25363

                      I'm with the 1mm drill set, but in order to provide bottom rake I'd drill at an angle of approx 6°, then file the end off to create the semi-circle.

                      #496749
                      Chris TickTock
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                        @christicktock
                        Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 17/09/2020 14:53:33:

                        No problem buying 1mm end-mills if you want to have a go but they're easily broken.

                        Tricky to use because home machines are rarely fast enough : a 1mm end-mill should be run at 10,000 rpm or faster. 50000rpm would be good!

                        When feed rate exceeds cutting speed, the work snaps the cutter. And it's difficult to keep the feed-rate low enough to suit a 1mm end-mill spinning at only 3000 rpm. Low rpm on small cutters and drills make them sensitive to any hint of operator clumsiness.

                        At 10000+ rpm, the end-mill cuts fast enough for the feed-rate to become manageable, otherwise develop a delicate touch! Worth looking at the spindle motors used for engraving machines and CNC if a lot of small diameter work is planned 12000rpm seems typical, faster the better.

                        I'd make the occasional tool described it by drilling a 1mm hole and grinding off as the other posts say.

                        When the cutter is made, note that it too will work best at high rpm. If finish is poor, try speeding up and/or reducing feed-rate.

                        Don't have much experience of delicate cutting work like this. Much breaking, bending and poor finish when I try. More practice might fix my problems. Can you report back how your experiment works out? I might learn summat!

                        Dave

                        Useful to me Dave as yet I was not aware different speed requirements per size end mill. Something else for me to learn.

                        Chris

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