Is this a good deal?

[Christopher ChurchillParticipant @christopherchurchill11285]

So even after the extensive talking I did yesterday on another thread and the desicion I had made about getting a sieg 2.7 but this has just come up on ebay and I was wondering if it's a better deal: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304226982785?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11051.m43.l1123&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=07041f127eab4f208e9c0408cfc3b240&bu=43927055779&osub=-1~1&crd=20211120062709&segname=11051&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid

It'll cost me around the same as the Sieg and some basic tooling for the sieg though…CONFUSION!??!

[Christopher ChurchillParticipant @christopherchurchill11285]

[Christopher ChurchillParticipant @christopherchurchill11285]

After a direct answer from Ketan @ Arc ( ref: https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=175621&p=3#2754008 ) I think I'll be going with the sieg 2.7 now it's new I know what I'm getting and I'd rather buy it new…

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Christopher Churchill on 20/11/2021 13:46:59:

So even after the extensive talking I did yesterday on another thread and the desicion I had made about getting a sieg 2.7 but this has just come up on ebay and I was wondering if it's a better deal: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304226982785?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11051.m43.l1123&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=07041f127eab4f208e9c0408cfc3b240&bu=43927055779&osub=-1~1&crd=20211120062709&segname=11051&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid

It'll cost me around the same as the Sieg and some basic tooling for the sieg though…CONFUSION!??!

Can't comment on the machine or price, but it's collect in person from Boston, Lincolnshire. Is that compatible with 'My problem here is I don't have a way to drive somewhere to pick up a machine I need to have this delivered'?

You would need to discuss shipping with the seller before buying it. Apart from adding to the cost, he might prefer to keep his end simple by only selling to someone who will remove it as well. Nothing's impossible but packaging a top-heavy milling machine for safe delivery by a courier takes a fair amount of effort. Not a problem for the trade, but I wouldn't care to take it on. Some couriers will pack and send: no idea what the costs are but I doubt it's cheap.

Dave

[Christopher ChurchillParticipant @christopherchurchill11285]

I pinged the seller and he'd be happy to pack it and ship it, hence the post here asking

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 20/11/2021 14:13:40:

Posted by Christopher Churchill on 20/11/2021 13:46:59:

So even after the extensive talking I did yesterday on another thread and the desicion I had made about getting a sieg 2.7 but this has just come up on ebay and I was wondering if it's a better deal: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304226982785?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11051.m43.l1123&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=07041f127eab4f208e9c0408cfc3b240&bu=43927055779&osub=-1~1&crd=20211120062709&segname=11051&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid

It'll cost me around the same as the Sieg and some basic tooling for the sieg though…CONFUSION!??!

Can't comment on the machine or price, but it's collect in person from Boston, Lincolnshire. Is that compatible with 'My problem here is I don't have a way to drive somewhere to pick up a machine I need to have this delivered'?

You would need to discuss shipping with the seller before buying it. Apart from adding to the cost, he might prefer to keep his end simple by only selling to someone who will remove it as well. Nothing's impossible but packaging a top-heavy milling machine for safe delivery by a courier takes a fair amount of effort. Not a problem for the trade, but I wouldn't care to take it on. Some couriers will pack and send: no idea what the costs are but I doubt it's cheap.

Dave

[John ReeseParticipant @johnreese12848]

The Draper looks like a much more rigid machine than the Seig. While less convenient than a variable speed machine the Draper's step pulleys give you mare available torque at low speed than you can get with variable speed drives. The Draper is also fitted with a DRO. The downside of the Draper is the round column. If you have to raise the head you lose x-y position.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

With a round column machine,you can fit a cheap DIY shop laser pointer, to aim at a line on a distant wall to restore alignment.

At about 10 feet (3 metres ) you should be able to get within a thou (0.025 mm )

You need to weigh up the pros and cons.

Buying a new machine; if there bis a problem, you can get back up.

With a second hand machine, it may be larger, more powerful, and come with extra tooling (Which you would need to buy for a new machine ) But if there bis a problem, apart from advice on here, you are on your own.

The decision has to be based on your budget and self confidence. (ASSUMING that the vendor is prepared to ship )

Based on what I saw during a short period as a courier, I would be very wary of using the usual parcels couriers to transport a machine for me.

A specialist machine mover would be more expensive, but less likely to damage the machine.

Only you can make the choice.

Howard.

[DiogenesIIParticipant @diogenesii]

"Is was this a good deal?"

No.

..it started at £300 today..

[John ReeseParticipant @johnreese12848]

There are several You Tube videos showing methods of preventing head rotation on round column mills. Check them out.

[VicParticipant @vic]

It’s a mystery why the Chinese Mill drills weren’t a better copy of the Korean or the German ones. As far as I’m aware they were a much better design?

Naerok

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