I Need this exact motor!

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Hi All,

I know zip about electric motors but am now getting the materials together for my linisher build using the Phil Vandelay plans on You Tube.

Picking up the water jetted parts on Monday but want to order the motor.

He got his in Germany and the link is this:

https://shop.dwema.de/Elektromotor-Drehstrom-15kW-S6-3000-min-Welle-19mm-80-B14160mm-Flansch

Please can anyone spec this exact motor for me to buy in the UK as I really do not want to get this wrong!

Also what would be a suitable VFD unit to go with this motor please?

Sorry to be so dim!

Cheers, Martin

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

[This posting has been removed]

[DC31kParticipant @dc31k]

Send a link to the item to Inverter Drive Supermarket.

Under the picture in the link is a table, headed "Typenschild:"

3 phase, 1.5kW, 2730rpm (In UK, we would note it as 2800rpm), flange mounted, B14 frame size, 19mm dia. shaft.

My German is non-existent but it does not take a whole lot of translation skill to determine the above.

[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

The only error was the missing ". " so it's 1.5Kw ie 2 Hp ! As DC3 says, it's fairly obvious. It won't be cheap though ! Must be a wide belt or very long. I have a 6" belt used for brass on a .75Kw  motor. Noel.

Edited By noel shelley on 12/06/2021 09:36:25

[jann westParticipant @jannwest71382]

perhaps this?

https://www.bearingboys.co.uk/?catid=2543&display=&orderby=&att1=1.5&att2=&att3=&att4=19mm&att5=

[Robert Atkinson 2Participant @robertatkinson2]

Hi,

You don't need that exact motor as it is a industry standard size. You need a 3 phase 4 pole 80 frame B14 flange mount motor e.g.

https://inverterdrive.com/group/Motors-AC/?filter=Power%7c1.5kW%2cMounting%7cB14+Face&filter=Frame%7c80

https://inverterdrive.com/group/Motors-AC/TECA-B14-High-Efficiency-AC-Motor-2-Pole-80-Short/

I've not used this suppler but others on here have given good reports. Rhey obviously do inverters too.

Call or email them with the link you have to the motor and see if they can help.

Robert G8RPI.

Edited By Robert Atkinson 2 on 12/06/2021 09:48:50

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Hi Robert,

Found this one:

Will this be OK?

It is just that I have a dread of ordering a big lump like this and opening it to find it is wrong, silly I know!

Any links for a VFD please, I know nothing about these either! Happy to help anyone out who wants to make a TV commercial or a Feature Film!

Martin

[Clive Brown 1Participant @clivebrown1]

I'm not a motor expert, but the OP's link says B14 flange, but the corresponding picture is a B5 flange.

Clarification needed or have I missed something.

[John HaineParticipant @johnhaine32865]

Posted by Robert Atkinson 2 on 12/06/2021 09:47:18:

Hi,

You don't need that exact motor as it is a industry standard size. You need a 3 phase 4 pole 80 frame B14 flange mount motor e.g.

https://inverterdrive.com/group/Motors-AC/?filter=Power%7c1.5kW%2cMounting%7cB14+Face&filter=Frame%7c80

https://inverterdrive.com/group/Motors-AC/TECA-B14-High-Efficiency-AC-Motor-2-Pole-80-Short/

I've not used this suppler but others on here have given good reports. Rhey obviously do inverters too.

Call or email them with the link you have to the motor and see if they can help.

Robert G8RPI.

Edited By Robert Atkinson 2 on 12/06/2021 09:48:50

2800 rpm = 2 pole

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

[This posting has been removed]

[John HaineParticipant @johnhaine32865]

Hmmm – from my mobile. Took a long time to upload obviously doing it 4 times!

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by John Haine on 12/06/2021 11:41:59:

Hmmm – from my mobile. Took a long time to upload obviously doing it 4 times!

I deleted the 3 extras. Duplicates never happento me with a real keyboard and mouse. They do occasionally when I use my touchpad equipped laptop. I think brushing the touchpad with my sleeve sends unwanted Enters. Touch screens are intolerant of slightly shaky fingers too – my ebook misunderstands me every ten pages or so. My kids have no problem with it.

Dave

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Hi,

See, here we go, 2 Pole, 4 Pole! all means nothing to me. I just need what the German motor is.

German link does not state whether 2 or 4 pole?

The pic I posted says B14 flange not B5 whatever that is?

Getting confused now!

Is the pic I posted OK? (2 Pole), will that work with a VFD?

Martin

[EmgeeParticipant @emgee]

Martin

You need the 2 pole motor and dual voltage 220/380v connected delta to operate from a 230v AC single phase supply VFD. As said check exact flange, B5 in the link you provided, B14 is smaller PCD fixings direct to motor endplate.

Emgee

Edited By Emgee on 12/06/2021 13:02:33

[VicParticipant @vic]

Martin, will you be doing a build log on this project?

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Hi Vic,

I will have a go at a build log on a new posting, it will be warts and al;l as this will really stretch my skill level.

It is not a very cheap project so I hope that I do not make many costly mistakes, hence my worry over this motor.

Here are the waterjetted parts that I collect on Monday and will make a start when I have got all fasteners, VFD and metal stock together.

The large pulley was jetted from 100mm stock and machined for me as I cannot get that big in my Myford!

Also there is no way that i can cut 15mm steel and ally in those sizes.

The small parts bottom right are clamps for plough planes, another project, one that has gone VERY well!

Cheers, Martin

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Hi,

This is the flange that I need as per the drawings for the linisher, I agree that the German link calls this a B14, but is it?

Just checked with the maker of the linisher and waiting to hear back.

Martin

[EmgeeParticipant @emgee]

[peak4Participant @peak4]

Martin, If you have a facebook account, you might consider joining this private group.
By the nature of the project, it's primarily US based, but there are UK members as well.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/847488865357217

Bill

[VicParticipant @vic]

Thanks Martin, very interesting project. I’ve been meaning to make a belt grinder myself but I’ve not seen any designs that I particularly like. I sharpen many of my tools on a belt and disc sander but would like something a bit more flexible.

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

[This posting has been removed]

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Br,

It would appear that the German link I posted has an error in the flange type, B5 not B14.

People have been kind enough to try and help me out with this, I am sorry if it has caused you any confusion or irritation.

Regards, Martin

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

[This posting has been removed]

[VicParticipant @vic]

Martin, a couple of questions for you if I may. What are those little “teeth” like objects in the bottom right of your picture? And, will you be using a glass platen on your grinder like some folks do across the pond?

[Author]

Posts