HSS/Tungsten Tool Honing Machine

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

I have just started the manufacture of a Project which has been 8 years in the design stage. Certain features which I wanted to include in the machine were proving difficult to fit into the space available, but I think I have done it now, thanks to help from John Slater.

There have been many times I have needed to put a very fine radius on a tool, and while I have managed to do this free hand it would have been so much easier with a dedicated piece of tooling. Which presented the tool to the Hone in a repeatable manner. The recent post on Boring Bars brought out a piece of information from the Sandvik web site concerning the tip radius on a boring tool, with regards to the depth of cut taken. Sandvik recommend that this radius should never be larger than the depth of cut. This has spurred me into getting this machine up and running if only to prove the above works in practice.

I hope over the coming months to keep you informed of my progress.

Regards

Gray,

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Looks very interesting, and very useful, Gray

After 8 years in your capable mind … The design should be spot-on.

Thanks

MichaelG.

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

Thanks Michael, but I do not always get things right, no one ever gets to see my scrap box.

The break through, if I can call it that, came when I thought about having separate dedicated tables for each function. The radius attachment needs a setting fixture and this too took some simplifying, the last thing I wanted was a very complex tool. To set a radius accurately merely requires the use of the appropriate sized feeler blade, but more on that again.

Regards

Gray,

Edited By Graham Meek on 18/06/2020 09:26:50

Edited By Graham Meek on 18/06/2020 09:28:22

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

For those who may be following this post, here are the main items of the Honing Machine finished. The cranks and the interchangeable tables are next on the list. Hopefully the next photograph in a few days will show the main parts assembled.

Regards

Gray,

[Raymond AndersonParticipant @raymondanderson34407]

Superb.

[Steve King 5Participant @steveking5]

Im followingbthis with great interest.

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

Thanks Raymond and Steve for the encouragement.

I regret to say the hot weather has slowed my progress, but I have managed to get the Crankshafts made.

The parts are Mild Steel web and Silver Steel shafts. They are Press fits into the web and are clinched with a ball bearing in the hole to make sure they stay put.

Regards

Gray,

[egaParticipant @ega]

Posted by Graham Meek on 08/08/2020 11:08:56:…

The parts are Mild Steel web and Silver Steel shafts. They are Press fits into the web and are clinched with a ball bearing in the hole to make sure they stay put.

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The ball bearing method is new to me. Is the idea that the shaft end is slightly expanded by being forced on to the ball at the bottom of the hole?

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by ega on 08/08/2020 17:03:19:

Posted by Graham Meek on 08/08/2020 11:08:56:…

The parts are Mild Steel web and Silver Steel shafts. They are Press fits into the web and are clinched with a ball bearing in the hole to make sure they stay put.

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The ball bearing method is new to me. Is the idea that the shaft end is slightly expanded by being forced on to the ball at the bottom of the hole?

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Mmm … New to me, too

That would, I suppose, be equivalent to ‘fox-wedging’ in woodwork

MichaelG.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

As usual, beautiful workmanship!

Presumably, the ball bearing is pressed into a bore, in the shaft, causing it to expand and become an interference fit?

Howard

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

The holes in the ends of crank-pin and the crankshaft are such that they leave a 0.75 wall thickness around each journal. These holes are only about 2 mm deep. Both holes in the web piece are countersunk 90 degrees by 0.25 wide.

In the case of the crank-pin with its 4 mm hole, a 4.75 mm or 3/16" ball bearing is placed on in the hole and using an arbour press the ball bearing is pressed into the hole. The action of the ball is to displace material from the 0.75 mm thick wall into the countersink, in essence riveting the crank-pin int the web. Using a press allows the operator to feel the material being displaced. Once this has happened no further pressure is needed.

The beauty of this method is that by using an undersize drill compared to the crank-pin hole in the web. It is possible to easily remove the pin as the initial hole automatically centralises the drill. It is only necessary to drill to the initial 2 mm depth. In doing this the pressure on clinch is reduced and the pin can be pressed out.

This of course would only need to be done if a replacement journal is needed due to wear. Thus saving having to remake the whole crankshaft. The same goes for the main crankshaft journal itself.

Regards

Gray,

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

I had hoped to take a few more photograph today of the Honing Machine, unfortunately the camera batteries decided they needed recharging, so what I was hoping to show today will have to wait.

Here is the Basic machine assembled. The graduated knob on the carriage is for an adjustable stop. The machine has a fixed stop for use when the Radius Attachment is fitted. The adjustable stop allows the extra 0.025 mm or 0.001" to be taken off if desired. As the graduations are 1 mm apart subdividing a division to take less off is easily achievable.

The size of tool bit covered by this machine is 0 to 8 mm, larger tools will be outside the sweep of the stone at the lowest point.

As can be seen the machine has been in use and has met the requirements of the design. It has also proved to be more versatile than was expected at the design stage. Some more photographs and a more detailed account to follow.

Regards

Gray,

Edited By Graham Meek on 01/09/2020 13:01:08

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

As promised a few days back here are some more shots of the Lathe Tool Honing Machine,

This view differs from the previous one in that a Guard has been added to the Rt hand side. With the stone rotating clockwise there was a distinct pinch hazard.

This second view shows several things,

First is the Spring loading that automatically retracts the table and also automatically locates the interchangeable tables in position for locking. The nature of the clamping mechanism means the complete table with the tool still set up can be removed for closer inspection with no loss of positional settings.

Secondly is the two position Deadstop. The primary use of the deadstop is when doing radii with the additional table, (more on that later). It also stops any collision between the edge of the table and the Slip stone.

This view shows the Deadstop in position 2, the hole in the stop allows the table to be advanced by a measured amount past the datum position by using the adjustable stop. The graduations on the collar of the adjustable stop can be seen in the first photograph. This collar is only graduated with 10 of the full compliment of 40 divisions as each division is 0.025 mm or 0.001". I could not foresee a need for removing 1 mm with a hone.

A Rear view of the machine showing the drive to the two cranks. The belt is kept in check by a cutout in one of the Motor support pillars so no washers are needed on the pulleys. The graduations on the degree scale can be seen in this view.

This view shows the second table in position for doing the radii, but as yet not fully machined. The felt tip marker traces out a semicircular cut-out to take the tool bit holder. The details of which will be posted soon.

Regards

Gray,

Edited By Graham Meek on 15/09/2020 14:57:15

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

That’s got real class

MichaelG.

[Martin WParticipant @martinw]

That's an elegant design and the workmanship is brilliant. It's one of those pieces of equipment that 'looks right cause it is right'. Mightily envious of the quality of work that you have achieved.

Martin

Edited By Martin W on 15/09/2020 17:34:35

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

Thank you both for your kind words.

I blame my apprenticeship with the Dowty Group as regards having to get everything right. Being part of the Aircraft Industry it had to be right, there are no lay-by's at 40.000 feet. Still their training stood me in good stead as a Toolmaker for 30+ years. Then later getting things right, and the education paid dividends while working for the Oncology Workshops at Cheltenham. Where we would see the effect of our work on patients.

Regards

Gray,

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

By way of introducing the next phase of the build.

This is the separate table that is used to form the Radii on the tools. The centre for the table and sector radius is the face of the slip stone, or hone.

This shows the Fixture parts for setting the radius. I will leave the setting of this fixture until I have finished the fixture. A picture will save me a thousand words describing how the fixture is used. Suffice to say this fixture automatically sets the tool at the correct radius and centralises it in one go.

Regards

Gray,

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

Hope you haven't used what looks like Aluminium for most parts Graham? At one of the ME exhibitions the "Purists downgraded the "Commutator skimming Lathe for model car motors" entered by a Youf because he hadn't used the "Correct" material in its construction. ie Aluminium instead of Cast Iron.

If yours is "Incorrect", S*d the judges, it looks fantastic.

Regards Ian.

Edit, – Next years "JS" award????

Nother edit, It would have cost a lot of money to buy the "Correct" machine to spin rivet the ball bearing operation in industry.

Edited By Circlip on 17/09/2020 11:54:32

Edited By Circlip on 17/09/2020 12:12:08

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

Hi Ian,

They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, in my book Aluminium looks good and is more than adequate for the job in hand. Plus it is a darn site cleaner to machine than Cast Iron, as well as being kinder on the tooling and the machines.

If the "Purist" want to change things to suit themselves that is OK by me. In fact I am happy when someone takes one of my designs and modifies it to suit their needs.

As regards exhibitions I only visit, never enter, so I won't have to worry about winning, or not winning anything.

The Riveting technique is one I have used for a number of years. It is another technique picked up in the Training School when we made all our own kit. By using a bearing ball the material will flow far easier due to the excellent surface finish on the ball. Whilst the use of an Arbor Press to do the operation allows the operator to feel the material give during the clinching and then go solid when it is fully home. The cost of one bearing ball is peanuts compared to spin rivet tooling.

Regards

Gray,

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Looks very nice Graham.

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Circlip on 17/09/2020 11:52:56:

Hope you haven't used what looks like Aluminium for most parts Graham? At one of the ME exhibitions the "Purists downgraded the "Commutator skimming Lathe for model car motors" entered by a Youf because he hadn't used the "Correct" material in its construction. ie Aluminium instead of Cast Iron.

If yours is "Incorrect", S*d the judges, it looks fantastic.

Regards Ian.

Edit, – Next years "JS" award????

Nother edit, It would have cost a lot of money to buy the "Correct" machine to spin rivet the ball bearing operation in industry.

Edited By Circlip on 17/09/2020 11:54:32

Edited By Circlip on 17/09/2020 12:12:08

In the USA I am sure the 'purists' would laugh at our UK obsession with heavy, dirty cast iron for jobs where it's weight or vibration deadening properties are of no benefit.

Surely the best material for the job is the one that does the job best…

Neil

[Graham MeekParticipant @grahammeek88282]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 17/09/2020 16:34:53:

Looks very nice Graham.

Neil

Thanks Neil,

This is the first of a pair of machines which I am working on. The second is a Rotary Hone / Lap for doing a range of bores. This design comes off the back of a novel way of adjusting a lapping tool, which I made a while back to finish the bores of my Steam Wagon. This second machine is still at the design stage, and hopefully John Slater will do some 3D views of this later in the year.

Unfortunately it will be another Aluminium construction for the main body,

Regards

Gray,

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

I would never criticize use of Aluminium, it "Looks" as if you've used 6082?. Only improvement I would suggest is to anodize the bits to save the prospect of any oxidation, and yes, although other grades of alloy are better, 6082 DOES anodize.

Another couple of "Expurt" criticisms. The use of Plywood in the construction of the impeller on the first home constructed working model gas turbine. – Read the calcs, it DOES work. And a real gem, the use of reclaimed tinplate (print side in) on the painted cleading of a model steam loco. LBSC did have words to the judges on that one.

Regards Ian.

[ChrisHParticipant @chrish]

What can you say but WOW!

What a lovely bit of kit, so well designed and then so beautifully made. Following with considerable interest.

Will you be publishing plans for this (in a MEW article perhaps)?

Chris

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