H. Halls mini surface gauge technical question…

[jon hill 3Participant @jonhill3]

In a previous unrelated post another member commented on the technical difficulty of achieving the adjustment mechanism. As I have been working on the same project and also had difficulty understanding the instructions, perhaps some more experienced members could explain the cuts necessary.

Perhaps where I am going wrong is I don't fully understand engineering drawings.. One of the many topics I need to get a hold on.

Anyway back to the topic from my understanding from the drawing on page 19 'Lathework a complete coarse' it seems that a vertical slot of 2mm is cut into the base. This doesn't make any sense to me as I cannot see why the base would need to flex in this area. Also he mentions the v grove around the circumference disguising a cut or cuts. I am left unclear as to where the cut or cuts should be placed. For instance should it be where the clamping screw goes or adding a 2nd parallel cut on the offside to create a hinge effect or could you use a parting off tool to remove a few mms all round?

Pics of project so far including failed attempt at milled 'nurling'. I tried to get a bit amitious instead of hand filing I set up a rotory table I had not used before on the milling machine. The work wasnt sufficiently clamped and the cutter wondered, oh well back to the mark 2 attempt.

[jon hill 3Participant @jonhill3]

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

I think you will find it explained on p26 … under the heading

Method of adjustment

MichaelG.

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Shout up if it still doesn’t make sense.

[jon hill 3Participant @jonhill3]

Also as per Michael's ref to pg26, H. Hall mentions cutting down the grove or at least implies this.does this refer to 2 parallel cuts, one bi-secting the tapped hole in the base and another on the opposite side? Or just one cutting throught the hole in the base? Or a third option cutting a deeper groove all the way round the circumference?

Perhaps all 3 options may work or only one hence I defer to someone with more experience….

Heres a copy of the drawing to explain my confusion.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

The little sectional drawing at the top right of your picture is the one you need to understand

There are two cuts, which nearly meet … just leaving a little 'partition' which is shown hatched.

This is what bends when you tighten the adjuster screw.

MichaelG.

[herbert punterParticipant @herbertpunter99795]

To be fair to yourself Jon, the drawing isn’t quite as clear as it could be. HH wants you to turn a groove all way round as a guide, and to make the cut neater. Then you need to saw through from the tapped screw hole side, stopping at 6mm from the other side, then cut from the other side stopping when you still have 2mm left. This forms a stiff metal hinge with enough give in it to allow the adjusting screw to tilt the top part to give you the fine adjustment.of the pointer.

I think I have this right and I hope it helps you.

Bert

MG beat me to it, as you would expect!

Edited By herbert punter on 06/09/2020 20:54:38

[jon hill 3Participant @jonhill3]

Thanks Michael & Bert, if the book had said to cut either side to make a hinge this would have made more sense to a complete novice like myself. I initially thought that the hatched area was an additional vertical cut.

Your explanation makes more sense. In my defence a complete newbie has to cover many topics when starting out, some of which come up from technical problems with kit and materials and some form lack of clear explanation to greenhorns like me.

[herbert punterParticipant @herbertpunter99795]

Jon

you do not need to be defensive, just keep on trying and you will get there.

there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.

Bert

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

I think you’ve got it now, jon

But, just for clarity, I have marked ‘AA’

The section is taken at the leader lines; so it cuts through the the flexure, which is therefore shown hatched.

… and as the view is downward, the counterbore on the hole is shown dotted.

MichaelG.

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