Green growth on car roof rails

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

My car a VW lives outdoors. We live in a wooded semi rural area.

The car roof rails have a green growth along the crevices.

Also on the trim under the doors.

The felt liners that the windows have as a seal also get this green growth.

Any suggestions of how to prevent, remove, fix.

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

[David George 1Participant @davidgeorge1]

Try burning coal near to the vehicle as the soot and fall out prevents the growth of moss and lichens. We never used to get such growths til the clean air act.

David

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Hi All,

the best case of this green stuff used to be in the sliding window channels of early Mini’s, you could grow potatoes in a good example!

Cheers, Martin

[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

Use a pressure washer?

Martin.

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

David, I have'nt got a chimney, the whole area is surrounded by woodland. I am going to try a mild vinegar solution to see if it helps. The houses around here are all less than 20 years old, so are built to the clean air act.

It is an estate car and now I have found it under the edge of the rear door where it festers unseen!

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

I have a pressure washer so that is one answer, thanks blowlamp.

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

It happens here for the same reasons. OH doesn't wash her car and the previous one had moss growing even on the main panels – took me a goodly while to clean it before trade-in after being unwashed for 7 years.
Apparently a copper wire on roof ridge can stop moss growing on tiles so perhaps a few bits wedged into panel gaps might work as a preventative?

pgk

[SpurryParticipant @spurry]

A pressure washer will definitely get rid of it, on a temporary basis, but be very careful near the rubber seals as they can be damaged with just a little too much pressure. (Experience teaches!)

[peak4Participant @peak4]

I wish I knew the answer, as we have the same problem at our house in Buxton.
There is something odd about the microclimate, just around our property, as first algae, and then moss grows rapidly.
It's not just the crevices like roof rails and around lights, but even over the vehicle paintwork after a month or two.
It even grows on the windscreen wipers

The tarmac and concrete paths and drives get covered in no time at all.
On these, I've used sodium percarbonate crystals, often known as oxygen bleach, to quite good effect as a moss killer. I can't use anything toxic, as our groundwater drains into next door's pond.

I'm reluctant to try it on metalwork though, as Landrovers corrode fast enough as it is.

Do we have any chemists amongst us?

Bill

[Speedy Builder5Participant @speedybuilder5]

Clive, try planting it. You never know, you may get a younger model !

I get the same on my front gates. Pressure washing does get it off, but it is difficult to get it out of the crevices of the scroll work and it comes back every couple of years. I did wonder about bleach which is what they use (in some form) on roof tiles to remove moss. I made a wooden garage out of Douglas fir and treated it with this product Treatment . 3 years down the line and not a spot of "green stuff" and the garage is overshadowed by an ash tree on one corner and a plum tree on another, but no idea as to what it would do on rubber/metal etc. This product is available in the UK UK supplier and for those building wooden sheds etc, I can heartily recommend it.

Bob

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

If it's green then it will be photo synthesising so reducing the light may slow things down a little. Try painting it with a solvent like IPA or maybe try one of the mould killers sold for bathrooms.

regards Martin

Edited By Martin Kyte on 06/02/2022 16:17:06

[Robert Atkinson 2Participant @robertatkinson2]

Best treatment for this is benzalkonium chloride. A detergent and biocide. Available in several forms including patio cleaner. I use Dettol's washing machine cleaner as a source. Dilute 50:50 or 30:70 with water and spray or brush on the green stuff Leave for a few hours and wash off. Helps prevent re-growth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzalkonium_chloride

https://www.dettol.co.uk/household-disinfection/laundry/dettol-washing-machine-cleaner-original-250-ml/

Robert G8RPI.

[Tim StevensParticipant @timstevens64731]

Just remember the rules about using herbicides etc – use them for what they are for, and not otherwise. Something to do with not destroying the planet.

I have seen shed roofs crossed by old wireless aerials – plain uninsulated copper. The line where the drips from the aerial fell had no moss and no lichen. Just a thought.

Tim

[RMAParticipant @rma]

I use sulphate of iron to kill moss on lawns and paths. My car suffers to some extent on one side. That's the side that is mainly hidden from the sun. I turn it round when I think of it and it goes. Be careful with pressure washers, they can reach parts you didn't know existed and they'll strip graphics in no time

[Speedy Builder5Participant @speedybuilder5]

Tim, zinc does the same. No moss below the zinc flashings.

[HOWARDTParticipant @howardt]

I think it is more a case of cleaning the vehicle more often. A car I saw the other day was more living green than dead paint. It never seemed to be a problem, perhaps modern water based paints are more prone than older cellulose based ones,

[EmgeeParticipant @emgee]

I have found pressure washing is liable to lift paintwork if there are any chipped areas so now use it with care but a stiff hand brush soon cleans the growth from widow seals. If still available diluted JEYES fluid disinfectant clears and helps reduce further growth.

Emgee

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, I get the same problem on my car, I scrape it off with a small plastic scraper when it gets too bad to look at it.

Regards Nick.

[Robert Atkinson 2Participant @robertatkinson2]

I suggested benzalkonium chloride because:

A. It is safe and non-persistent. Other uses include throat lozenges and preservative in eye drops. LD50 for Rats is 2 g/kg (table salt is 2 g/kg). Just keep it out of the fish pond.
B. It isintended for use as an algicide. The Dettol product is a different application but is sold in a more useful 250 ml rather than 2.5 l for patio cleaner.
C. it does not damage paintwork or rubber seals e.g. around windows.
D. It's non staining

Robert G8RPI.

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

All good info, I will report back soon. Clive

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

I use diluted jeyes fluid to shift the slime of the concrete flags. Check it won't damage your paint first

[Adrian NicolsonParticipant @adriannicolson]

Hi Clive, I would suggest that you use Fenwicks Caravan Cleaner, it comes in a concentrate form, dilute as required.

Have a look at the detailed description on their website…Fenwicks Caravan

I have used this, amongst many others, over the years…and in my opinion, this is the best by far…and yet does it, without using any aggressive or caustic cleaning agents.

I have no personal tie up with Fenwicks…just a very satisfied user over many years…and not just on Caravans.

Regards,

Adrian

[John Doe 2Participant @johndoe2]

Yes, don't use a pressure washer. They can blow grease out of parts and lift paint, and get inside electrics, and will also get past window seals and drench the inside of a door. Lots of mechanical and electrical stuff inside a car door that you do not want to get wet.

A gentle scrub with a dish-washing brush and some car cabriolet roof cleaner or one of the products designed for the job should sort it.

Don't use bleach etc in case it damages your paint or metalwork. I put a bleach type product in a washing machine once and permanently stained the stainless steel drum, (ironically !).

 

Edited By John Doe 2 on 07/02/2022 10:57:42

[KWILParticipant @kwil]

I use one of the Brands of "snow foam", then a water driven rotary brush. Hand cloth works as well. Gets the green off but does not stop it appearing again eventually. Th curse of a wooded landscape and car kept outside.

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