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    Trevorh
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      @trevorh

      Hi All

      looking for comments on the following equipment

      collections/cnc/products/sainsmart-genmitsu-cnc-router-3018-mx3 >**LINK**

      My son is looking to get into CNC for his model making

      comments please

      regards Trevor

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      #15239
      Trevorh
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        @trevorh
        #417899
        Trevorh
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          @trevorh

          Is this any good for machining acrylics and poss Aluminium or soft metals?

          thanks

          #417903
          Ian Parkin
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            @ianparkin39383

            I would say not

            its as cheap as a cnc can get and still work

            theres no software with it…mach 3 is £120 ish or the free mentioned

            the motor will drive you mad with the lack of power and noise

            soft wood ,foam but no metals at all not too sure about acyrilics

            and it has a very small work envelope

            #417905
            Trevorh
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              @trevorh

              Thanks Ian, Glad we checked before he spent his money,

              Thank you for the comment

              Pleased I asked the question

              regards

              trevor

              #417907
              nigel jones 5
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                @nigeljones5

                This is a link to the air cooled low end version of what I have – **LINK**

                they are very well made from 10mm ali plate for the uprights.

                #417908
                Trevorh
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                  @trevorh

                  Ok So I have spoken to my son and the "working Envelope" isn't an issue

                  based on the above what would be a reasonable entry level type of machine to go for?

                  The programming side of things isn't an issue as he is a professional Computer programmer by trade

                  Thanks

                  Trevor

                  #417909
                  Trevorh
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                    @trevorh

                    Thanks Fizzy

                    you obviously type faster than me…

                    cheers for the link

                    #417911
                    nigel jones 5
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                      @nigeljones5

                      this is the one I have – cant see how they do it for the money, very impressed with it and i use it solely for brass **LINK**

                      #417912
                      nigel jones 5
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                        @nigeljones5

                        and here is a video of me using it to drill holes in one of my burners – I had 100 to make so needed a hands off solution. Only snapped 2 drills so far and that was through sheer stupidity – not short of that! Pendle Steam Boilers CNC drilling

                        #417913
                        Jeff Dayman
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                          @jeffdayman43397

                          Hi Trevor, Often with machines of this type, and 3D printers, there is a large Youtube community posting about the specific machines. If you search on youtube with the make and model you will likely find LOTS of good info about capabilities / good points / bad points before you buy.

                          One thing I have noticed about cnc routers at the low end of the cost scale is that the motors look like ordinary Johnson-style DC plain bearing units with an adapter collet chuck tacked on. The bearings in ordinary DC motors (intended for fans or small appliances) are not designed to take heavy side or end loads as they would see in cnc router cutting or milling. I don't think the bearings in these motors would last long, especially with plunge cuts / end loads since the thrust brgs are minimal if present at all in a lot of common DC motors.

                          If you can find a router with a belt drive to a separate spindle (preferably ball or roller bearing) then the motor will likely last far longer and the cuts will be cleaner too. With a separate spindle you might be able to rebuild / tune / improve it or get an upgraded one if problems occur and the youtube community responds. For 3D printers for example, there are many "hot rodding" performance improvement kits for various modules of the machines, shown and reviewed on youtube.

                          #417914
                          Trevorh
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                            @trevorh

                            perfect

                            this is exactly what I needed – I will pass the above onto my son for further investigation

                            cheers

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                              #418031
                              Trevorh
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                                @trevorh

                                Barrie

                                thank you, my son is now reviewing the alternative machines but has stated he is tending towards having a go at constructing his own…..

                                Could/should be interesting

                                thank you to all that have commented

                                regards

                                Trevor

                                #418035
                                Baz
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                                  @baz89810

                                  Fizzy what size holes are you drilling?

                                  #418039
                                  Trevorh
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                                    @trevorh

                                    I think he is wanting to engrave and work with acrylics but not sure

                                    He lives over on the IOW so I dont get to see him often

                                    hence not sure what he is trying to achieve

                                    Thanks

                                    #418087
                                    nigel jones 5
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                                      @nigeljones5

                                      Hi Baz – they are 1.5mm with a bit too fast feed rate. Slow the feed right down and 6mm is good.

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