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  • #193732
    V8Eng
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      @v8eng

      With all the Steam Engines that seem to get built by Model Engineers, I would have expected somebody to suggest steam power by now.

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      #193734
      richardandtracy
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        @richardandtracy

        Trying to avoid falling into an obvious trap… That's my excuse, & I'm sticking to it.

        Regards,

        Richard

        #193742
        V8Eng
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          @v8eng

          smileywink

          #193759
          Black Cat2
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            @blackcat256889

            Is there some way of damping the power strokes from a low revving engine-800 rpm to drive a lathe..I had wondered about the Drummond and Wolseley paired up.?

            #193763
            Neil Wyatt
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              @neilwyatt

              Er… a flywheel?

              #193774
              Black Cat2
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                @blackcat256889

                Ha ha..alright..I did nt know
                It would be enough on its own!

                #193838
                richardandtracy
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                  @richardandtracy

                  Don't think you'd want to power it with one of those hit & miss engines though. The speed variation is visible/audible even to an untrained eye/ear.

                  Regards,

                  Richard

                  #193843
                  Gordon W
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                    @gordonw

                    I would not like to run a lathe direct from a big single cylinder engine, esp. a diesel. I'm basing this on my experience of running a saw mill, 36" dia blade, with a Petter diesel. Engine slows down under load until the governor picks up. Under continuous cut it was fine. A long belt is a big help, mine was a 2" flat belt about 6 ft c/c and could have been twice that. My thinking is to change to DC motors and run of a battery or 4, need not be expensive if you get 2nd hand motors.

                    #193848
                    Neil Wyatt
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                      @neilwyatt

                      It may not be the best way, but for 40 or 50 years, an awful lot of hobbyists and small jobbing shops ran lathes on small petrol engines of almost any type, so it must be practical.

                      Neil

                      #193850
                      Lambton
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                        @lambton

                        Any lathe powered by an internal combustion engine, petrol or diesel, will require a clutch so that the lathe spindle can be stopped and started at will without having to start or stop the engine.

                        #193853
                        Gordon W
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                          @gordonw

                          I find small engines react quicker on the governor, that helps a bit. My first lathe, and the saw bench, had fast and loose pulleys, simple and work well. I suppose technically a clutch?

                          #193865
                          Swarf, Mostly!
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                            @swarfmostly

                            In my amateur radio days, our club used to run its National Field Day stations from a single cylinder diesel generator. Although our usual site was fairly rural, there were houses within earshot, especially at night when the ambient sound level was otherwise low. We attempted to confine the diesel noise by 'circling the wagons' around the generator with three or four cars. It owed more to wishful thinking than to acoustics!

                            The diesel noise is predominantly low frequency, difficult to silence, and I used to wonder whether the noise from a gas turbine, being higher in frequency, might be easier to suppress. It would have been interesting to lay hands on an ex-aircraft APU but I had no idea whether such an item would have been available, from where and at what cost!

                            Drag racers seem to get quite large gas turbines from somewhere so it must be possible.

                            Another big unknown was the maintenance burden for an APU. Do they run for the whole duration of a flight or just until the main engines are running?

                            Oh, well, interesting but not on my project list anymore!!!

                            Best regards,

                            Swarf, Mostly!

                            Edited By Swarf, Mostly! on 17/06/2015 13:20:18

                            #193870
                            Lambton
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                              @lambton

                              What about a perpetual motion machine ? It would cost nothing to run and go on forever !

                              #193884
                              Gordon W
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                                @gordonw

                                You could try and harness the worm.

                                #193908
                                J Hancock
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                                  @jhancock95746

                                  We are left with either, buying an old dis-used watermill, or windmill, or moving to Iceland ( thermal ).

                                  Do you see where this is going and doesn't it show you how dependent we are on our utilities and

                                  what an utter mess we will be in ( soon ) ?

                                  #193909
                                  Black Cat2
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                                    @blackcat256889

                                    I m keeping my boat..At least it goes up and down with the water level!
                                    My water filter is even good enough to filter river water except ,unfortunately for the chemicals in it..
                                    Still need a shoreline for the lathe though!

                                    #193911
                                    Michael Gilligan
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                                      @michaelgilligan61133
                                      Posted by Black Cat2 on 17/06/2015 20:00:22:
                                      … it goes up and down with the water level!

                                      .

                                      Well there's a useful source of energy for you

                                      MichaelG.

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