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[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

My point is I have tried all the above, and it still happens. Why should I spend my time chasing this?

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

Posted by Gordon W on 22/08/2012 11:36:26:

My point is I have tried all the above, and it still happens. Why should I spend my time chasing this?

 

Gordon

Well I cannot think of a good answer to your question, other than, if you dont do it yourself no one else will!

To be fair, the editor tries, and many forum posters have spent fruitless hours on this particular problem. The (IT) people that could do something about seem to have an obscure motive for NOT fixing it.

Changing browers, operating systems, compatibility mode, its all baloney! The problem is caused fairly and squarely by the website. I now just live with it and if a post is obscurred, stop looking at that topic.

Ian

Edited By Ian Phillips on 22/08/2012 14:10:39

[peter walton 1Participant @peterwalton1]

If I really really want to read the text, highlight it and paste into notepad, then its readable

My 2p worth

Peter

Edited By peter walton on 22/08/2012 15:15:05

[SpringbokParticipant @springbok]

Everyone

This is not rocket science, simply if you are writing a long message put it in word ensure that you have left enough space justify the rext highlight then ( looks nice) ctrl C (copy) got into your message then ctrl V paste. In the forum if you do not want double spaceing use shift enter to move to next line.

Am only in my 70's and still learning.
Bob

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Hi Bob

As I see it that will not solve the problem.

My understanding is that the difficulty arises when long links are inserted into the post. The way to handle these is to copy the link address, press the blue "bubble car" symbol ( sorry Michael!), and paste the link address into the box that pops up.

The problem is with the site software. If it is too annoying then the only solution open to users is not to use the site. This site however is so useful that I, for one, am willing to put up with a bit of inconvenience. David can correct things but I think he has plenty to do already – maybe some IT whizzo could be tasked to trawl each days new posts to correct matters?

( Or is that a Steak and Kidney I see overhead ?)

Cheers

Norman

Edited By NJH on 22/08/2012 17:35:43

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

Just a thought.

Would you consider using a supplier if they had sign written thier name across the side of your car.

The advert thing is no more than a minor pain( three diff. browswers / OS and "pc"'s)…BUT it is still not showing the advertisers PAID impression in a good light.

Maybe the editor could use this tack…to get some action.. maybe..

btw is it some sort of wrap thingy? ie if the s/w tries to insert too wide a field in the post section ?

Might start new thread/threads looking for ways to trigger effect…

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Tried a long line without spaces or carriage returns. All that did was to make the page very wide. i have deleted that! I think it is just external links causing the problem ?

N

 

Edited By NJH on 22/08/2012 18:08:03

Edited By NJH on 22/08/2012 18:10:21

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

Long link inserted without using the link button and 2 photos side by side cause it.

regards David

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

It seems that what works with one `puter, OS and browser, doesn`t work with another combination. All I can say is that having followed somebody else`s advice on this thread regarding COMPATIBILITY VIEW, I find it works on my set up. As previously stated, it also works on my 3G mobile, without the need to fiddle around with CV. So, Ian, try to find a sympathetic youngster who knows how to overcome `puter probs., as its not baloney as you put it.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Everyone …

On 09-August, I sent this link to David; suggesting that it might be of interest to the I.T. team

I don't know if they have taken any interest, but I believe the answer to our problem lies therein.

… It's rather heavy going for the non-specialist; but worth a read.

MichaelG.

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

John

When I said baloney I was refering to all the advice to 'do this, do that, try this etc, etc. Whilst the advice is freely given in good faith by people trying to be helpful it cannot ever solve the problem, only the website IT people can do that.

I have long given up being bothered by this problem, I just accept it as it does not stop me using the forum.

What I do not understand though is why this website tries to do things differently to the norm, the spell checker is good (bad!) example.

Ian

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by jason udall on 22/08/2012 17:58:30:

Might start new thread/threads looking for ways to trigger effect…

 

Jason,

I made a similar suggestion in another thread, on 17-July, to no avail.

Quote: I think the variation is down to poor "browser compatibility" in the html … which is something your web-developers need to check.

There are many of us that are interested in this problem, so; why not let the developers make a few test postings … we could then report on performance in different browsers.

MichaelG.

iPad / iOS, Safari

MacBookPro / SnowLeopard, Safari

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 22/08/2012 21:34:58

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by NJH on 22/08/2012 17:32:01:

… press the blue "bubble car" symbol ( sorry Michael!) …

It's obviously one of those four-wheel Isettas, Norman.

… but which way is it pointing ?

​MichaelG.

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

wot spelchekker? Does it exist? There are quite a number of mistakes in postings by apparently English people who should know better.

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

SPELLCHECKER?..All I get under Opera is.."……Not supported" or some such.. That I can live with

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by DMB on 22/08/2012 23:04:36:

wot spelchekker? Does it exist? There are quite a number of mistakes in postings by apparently English people who should know better.

The one that can [in some browsers] be enabled via the drop-down menu under the icon with "ABC" and a "Tick" … just above Norman's "BubbleCar".

"Check" is, of course, the American for "Tick" … which just about explains the logic behind that icon.

MichaelG.

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Hi Michael

Four wheeled Isetta – yes I think that's what was brought to mind. As far as direction – well the only bubble car I've looked at really is the Messerschmitt with, I think, a 3 speed gearbox operated by a single lever which just moved in a straight line fore and aft. That was, I believe, 3 forward speeds and 3 reverse! So, in answer to your question – it really didnt matter – same performance in either direction! ( I guess though that selecting the reverse direction might prove to be more exciting!)

Never owned one but one was on offer many moons ago. I wish I'd bought it – they go for a fortune today.

Norman

[Gone AwayParticipant @goneaway]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 22/08/2012 21:27:58:

There are many of us that are interested in this problem, so; why not let the developers make a few test postings … we could then report on performance in different browsers.

You can check the validity of a web page with the W3C CSS Validation Service. This particular page shows 12 errors. Other pages here show various numbers of errors. Perhaps it would be better if the developers cleaned up these before resorting to test postings.

Re: Spelling checkers.
Browser spelling checkers don't work with the editor here. You have to enable the local checker (SCAYT) from the drop down above the reply pane. Any words or personal spelling preferences you use are stored as a cookie (assuming you have site cookies turned on of course). If you delete cookies, you lose your personal dictionary.

Dumb idea. Makes much more sense for people to use their browser spelling checker and preferred dialect dictionary on all sites they visit rather than checkers (chequers? ) that are local to that site only.

(Like many, I have it turned off here. If there are any spelling errors, that explains it).

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Sid Herbage on 23/08/2012 01:12:16:

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 22/08/2012 21:27:58:

There are many of us that are interested in this problem, so; why not let the developers make a few test postings … we could then report on performance in different browsers.

You can check the validity of a web page with the W3C CSS Validation Service. This particular page shows 12 errors. Other pages here show various numbers of errors. Perhaps it would be better if the developers cleaned up these before resorting to test postings.

Agreed 100%, Sid … they need to clean up the evident defects in the code before [but not intead of] doing any test postings.

The sequence is pretty well established:

1. Development

2. Browser Compatibility Testing

3. Stress Testing and Penetration Testing

4. User Acceptance Testing

… repeat as required.

"In the Real World": The effort put into each stage tends to vary, according to:

(a) the Budget available, and

(b) the perceived Impact of failure.

MichaelG.

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

Thought it would be obvious that I was joking when I said "Wot spelchekker?"

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Nothing is obvious on this forum.

Others have asked that question seriously.

… Sorry I missed the joke.

MichaelG.

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 23/08/2012 08:39:06:

Posted by Sid Herbage on 23/08/2012 01:12:16:

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 22/08/2012 21:27:58:

"In the Real World": The effort put into each stage tends to vary, according to:

(a) the Budget available, and

(b) the perceived Impact of failure.

MichaelG.

I think you have hit the nail on the head there!

(a) Appear very limited

(b) Virtually no impact, all it does is annoy the forum users. I doubt the management (especially the corporate bods) even know about it. If they did, they probably wouldn't see any point in wasting resources on it anyway.

As I said, I have stopped worrying about it.

By coincidence, I've just looked at the high quality engineering (and the high standard of his photography) in Graham Meek's recent Myford project. They really have screwed up the screen layout though!

Ian

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi Sid, I have a spell checker in my Google Toolbar, which works fine in this editor. My SCYAT is disabled.

Regards Nick.

[Gone AwayParticipant @goneaway]

That's interesting, Nick. It sure doesn't work with FF/IE plugins. I wonder what Google's got that the others haven't

Not that I want to install the Google toolbar just for that.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi Sid, well my browser is IE9.

Regards Nick.

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