FORUM DOWNTIME AND RESULTING ISSUES REPORTING

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Not sure how you can do that Neil as they all used to be there so adding more may be difficult

[Frances IoMParticipant @francesiom58905]

great pity you didn’t acquire one of those ‘bootleg’ dvds – would have been a trivial job to digitise these.

It is the ME archive that is probably the most valuable as the many long build articles serialised over many issues are still required if people want to reproduce the model.

[Anonymous]

At last !!!! Finally able to visit the site and have the safe padlock showing again. Weirdly when it was showing unsafe and I checked the advance settings it did show the certificate was valid until September but I still had to override the unsafe screen to get to the site.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by JasonB on 20/06/2022 16:41:51:

Not sure how you can do that Neil as they all used to be there so adding more may be difficult

I may be sharper than some people think.

Watch this space…

Neil

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Anyone else not been getting e-mail notifications of private messages?

[dhendleyKeymaster @dhendley]

Posted by JasonB on 21/06/2022 12:36:39:

Anyone else not been getting e-mail notifications of private messages?

I'm not! And some people are not getting password reset emails either

Looking into it

[David George 1Participant @davidgeorge1]

Hi me again, I had a private message and there was no notification and also still sometimes I get an unsafe web site with no padlock as it is now and sometimes it is safe on tablet Android 7. No problem problem on pc windows 11 or phone Samsung Android 12

David

[David George 1Participant @davidgeorge1]

And now safe again on tablet? Dosn't make sense to me.

David

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by David George 1 on 23/06/2022 06:43:11:

And now safe again on tablet? Dosn't make sense to me.

David

May be this problem, in which Android devices before version 7.1.1 have trouble with new certificates issued by a new certificate authority, notably "Let's Encrypt".

After change of ownership and being moved to a new server, the forum is now authenticated by a new Let's Encrypt security certificate. As David also has an old version of Android, the planets are aligned, and he's having bad luck! Could be a coincidence, but…

There is a workaround. It is to change the phones' Browser to Firefox Mobile. Seems that Firefox keeps it's own copy of the certificate and doesn't use the wonky certificate checks provided by pre-7.1.1 Android.

Dave

[dhendleyKeymaster @dhendley]

Hi all, will get back to you on this. Our SSL cert chap is on holiday this week

[dhendleyKeymaster @dhendley]

We just had a bit of downtime! Hopefully no one noticed

[John HinkleyParticipant @johnhinkley26699]

I did! Along with quite a few others, I suspect. Browser couldn't find the server.

John

[Frances IoMParticipant @francesiom58905]

I had a 500 error if of any interest – my guess is that you were down for at least 3 hours

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

I noticed! Luckily I was out for most of it, though I'd rather have stayed home watching an Error 500 screen than troll round Tesco's. I hate shopping almost as much as gardening.

Dave

[Anonymous]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 23/06/2022 08:39:34:

Posted by David George 1 on 23/06/2022 06:43:11:

And now safe again on tablet? Dosn't make sense to me.

David

May be this problem, in which Android devices before version 7.1.1 have trouble with new certificates issued by a new certificate authority, notably "Let's Encrypt".

After change of ownership and being moved to a new server, the forum is now authenticated by a new Let's Encrypt security certificate. As David also has an old version of Android, the planets are aligned, and he's having bad luck! Could be a coincidence, but…

There is a workaround. It is to change the phones' Browser to Firefox Mobile. Seems that Firefox keeps it's own copy of the certificate and doesn't use the wonky certificate checks provided by pre-7.1.1 Android.

Dave

 

Thing is I've got an older Android version and kept getting the unsafe screen and no padlock, seemed to have cured itself on occassions but then kept going back to unsafe. Been O.K. for the past couple of days with padlock now gone back to unsafe yet again so can't really be the Android problem if it keeps changing.

Your connection is not private

Attackers might be trying to steal your information from http://www.model-engineer.co.uk (for example, passwords, messages or credit cards). Learn more

NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID

Subject: www.model-engineer.co.uk

Issuer: R3

Expires on: 6 Sep 2022

Current date: 23 Jun 2022

Edited By Bezzer on 23/06/2022 18:26:42

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, I also noticed the downtime and the red background M icon was missing from my favourites list and got that error message.

Regards Nick.

[KEITH BEAUMONTParticipant @keithbeaumont45476]

Hi, I always seem to have a problem of some sort,when I upload photos to my album. I do not do it often enough to have developed a routine. Yesterday I was in the act of adding some photos of my latest engine,when, at the very moment I clicked on the Add button, I got THE Error 500 screen! I spent a hour trying different things, convinced I had caused it. I then tried to access the site through my Tablet and got the same screen.I am now relieved to know others had the same problem.

Keith

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

Jason,

I'm not getting email notifications.

Martin P

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Darren H on 21/06/2022 13:00:17:

Posted by JasonB on 21/06/2022 12:36:39:

Anyone else not been getting e-mail notifications of private messages?

I'm not! And some people are not getting password reset emails either

Looking into it

Password reset emails never have been reliable. MTM thought many get blocked as spam.

Neil

[KEITH BEAUMONTParticipant @keithbeaumont45476]

I am not getting e-mail notification also.

Keith

[David George 1Participant @davidgeorge1]

New windows 11 work station Dell. the spell check says there is a problem but there is no way it will fix the spelling problem. also as my tablet still has a problem with security and in this state it deletes messges to another member when you click send and it wipes out what you have spent 20 minutes concocting.

David George

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by David George 1 on 26/06/2022 16:24:42:

New windows 11 work station Dell. the spell check says there is a problem but there is no way it will fix the spelling problem. also as my tablet still has a problem with security and in this state it deletes messges to another member when you click send and it wipes out what you have spent 20 minutes concocting.

David George

Which spell-checker? The one provided by the forum, which is off by default, or the one in your browser? Which browser are you running? As far as I can tell the forum SCAYT checker, which I don't recommend for other reasons, is working normally.

Unfortunately your tablet's problem means the connection is likely to break every time the certificate is checked. If the encryption between your tablet and the website becomes confused mid-session, whatever the cause, both ends of the link will terminate the connection immediately. Done brutally because the error usually means a hacker is breaking in.

Although the message warns there's a security issue, not so in this case, because the connection is refused entirely. What's happening, I think, is older versions of Android don't handle a particular special case correctly. The special case is when a new certificate authority issues a certificate that Android doesn't trust, and the computer – for some reason – mishandles a cross-check provided by another certificate authority. Roughly equivalent to finding a brand-new door key won't open s lock and the owner can't find the spare…

I'm not having certificate problems on any of my computers – 3 different Windows, 4 different Linux, and an Apple. Unfortunately I don't have an Android device to try and recreate the fault. I've also run a third-party check on the forum's certificate and it's OK.

Complicated stuff. Darren said he's waiting for a certificate expert's help. Fingers crossed he can fix it!

Dave

[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

The email service on the forum is not working for me. I can send an email to a forum member, but looking in the sent box, the message doesn't appear.

Andrew.

[dhendleyKeymaster @dhendley]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 23/06/2022 08:39:34:

Posted by David George 1 on 23/06/2022 06:43:11:

And now safe again on tablet? Dosn't make sense to me.

David

May be this problem, in which Android devices before version 7.1.1 have trouble with new certificates issued by a new certificate authority, notably "Let's Encrypt".

After change of ownership and being moved to a new server, the forum is now authenticated by a new Let's Encrypt security certificate. As David also has an old version of Android, the planets are aligned, and he's having bad luck! Could be a coincidence, but…

There is a workaround. It is to change the phones' Browser to Firefox Mobile. Seems that Firefox keeps it's own copy of the certificate and doesn't use the wonky certificate checks provided by pre-7.1.1 Android.

Dave

It looks like this is the problem older versions of Android do not recognise the certificate – the cert is in place though and valid.

[dhendleyKeymaster @dhendley]

Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 26/06/2022 20:06:17:

The email service on the forum is not working for me. I can send an email to a forum member, but looking in the sent box, the message doesn't appear.

Andrew.

We are looking at this today

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