Evo-Stik Serious Glue

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Has anyone else tried this glue? I have and it seems to be excellent.

It is string when used in a thin film, but is gap filling and you can use a thicker layer which gives a joint with a little flexibility.

It has a three-minute working time, and sets reasonably quickly.

It only has a faint, not unpleasant, smell and has no hazard warnings on the packaging.

It works very well on PLA and wood. I have not yet tried it on smooth, hard surfaces like wood or acrylic.

At first experience it seems to be an almost ideal 'general purpose' adhesive, but has anyone else used it?

I'd also be interested to know what sort of glue it is.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

[HacksawParticipant @hacksaw]

Perfect for me teeth then..

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

I found a Manufacturer's data sheet:

EVO-STIK Serious Glue is a high performance; single
component, moisture curing, Modified Silane (MS) Polymer
based adhesive. It will bond most surfaces even if both are
impervious. The product will bond damp surfaces and may
even be used underwater. It has very low odour, cures to
form an elastic rubber, with almost no shrinkage and low
hazard; it does not contain any water or solvent, making it
ideal for bonding foam polystyrene.
EVO-STIK Serious Glue bonds to most surfaces including
wood, concrete, brick, plaster, glass, ceramics, metals, rigid
pvc, grp, fabrics and foam polystyrene . It is ideal for fixing
and repair jobs inside and outside the home, in the garden,
for cards and boats and for hobbies and crafts (EVO-STIK
Serious Glue will not bond to polyethylene and
polypropylene materials).

[Ian HewsonParticipant @ianhewson99641]

Funny how coincidences happen, last night I had to retrieve my fire bricks from the garden to silver solder the neck of a globe valve, underneath one was an unseen slug which promptly cover my fingers in slime.

Had to really scrub it off with soap and water, stuck like glue, today a news item mentions slug slime being used for medical glue, sticks like s*** and gets stronger than the tissue it is stuck to in half an hour, water and blood proof too.

Seem like evo stick have been down the same path, wonder if they found the slug slime?

[Brian OldfordParticipant @brianoldford70365]

I'm still looking for something affordable that sticks HDPE.

[TomfileryParticipant @tomfilery]

Yes Neil, I have used it. Like you, I was initially impressed – however ………

Despite trying the usual tricks to keep the nozzle clear, I found that I spent more time unblocking it than I spent doing any gluing. Then, having stuck a wooden headstock upside down onto a 16mm scale rail wagon (so wood to wood) and having left it for a few weeks un-noticed I found it disappointingly easy to remove the offending item from the wagon. Headstock was approx 6 x 4 mm, approx 130 long, glued to ply for the full length of the 4mm face and also to two other similar sized spruce strips end on. The ply did not delaminate when I removed the headstock.

Ok, so I managed to get it all apart without damage and was able to reuse the headstock, which was a bonus admittedly, but "serious" glue – I think not!

Regards Tom

[James AlfordParticipant @jamesalford67616]

I used the same glue to stick vinyl trim to the seat cover on my BSA. Never came off and destroyed the cover when I needed to remove it.

[I.M. OUTAHEREParticipant @i-m-outahere]

So you apply it to one surface and dampen the other then stick them together ?

Sounds similar to Gorilla grip glue .

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by XD 351 on 29/07/2017 00:32:14:

So you apply it to one surface and dampen the other then stick them together ?

Sounds similar to Gorilla grip glue .

No, it doesn't foam and expand like the polyurethane glues do. It works with moisture in the air.

I'll have to see how I get on with it. So far I have stuck 15 QCTP too-holder holders to a sheet or varnished ply to make a very neat rack, assembled a PLA R2D2 and started kitting out a flight case for my astro camera and lenses with wood and foam dividers (There's too much to fit in to rely on pick and pluck).

> The ply did not delaminate when I removed the headstock.

That's interesting. I will do some more experimenting. I think it's probably like all glues – promises everything but actually turns out to be good for a rather narrower range of uses.

I've recently discovered a bargain superglue 'super stik' which is much faster setting and appears stronger than the expensive branded 'gel' types I have been using for PLA.

It is a constant quest for the right adhesive for the task.

Neil

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 29/07/2017 08:33:58:

No, it doesn't foam and expand like the polyurethane glues do. It works with moisture in the air.

Polyurethane adhesives don't foam unless specially formulated to do so. This type of adhesive is excellent for sticking almost anything. I have used vast quantities of it's predecessor (Loctite 5220) for fixing teak decking strips on a fibre glass boat and it sticks like the proverbial to a shovel.

Russell

[David JuppParticipant @davidjupp51506]

Posted by Brian Oldford on 28/07/2017 19:32:34:

I'm still looking for something affordable that sticks HDPE.

Forget it – PE & PP being non-polar are very difficult to stick to. Corona discharge or briefly 'washing' with a flame will create polar groups on the surface which improves matters somewhat. PE is unaffected by most chemicals, so no easy treatments there to modify the surface.

Either weld it, perhaps use a hot melt, or use something other than HDPE.

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