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    Michael Gilligan
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      Here is a detail of the external meshing, from the svg file

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      screenshot 2022-11-02 at 12.26.04.jpg

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      Someone with superior CAD skills might like to check my assumption that it would lock-up if used with that tooth profile inside the ring.

      MichaelG.

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      #619469
      duncan webster 1
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        I think the use of cycloidal gears for clocks was debunked a long time ago. I've quoted the link in previous posts. For involute gears, the tooth form for internal teeth is the inverse of an external gear with the same number of teeth. If this is a large number, straight teeth might work?

        #619475
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          You might enjoy this, Duncan:

          **LINK**

          Lantern pinion as a special case of cycloidal gear

          … especially the final two of the graphics

          MichaelG.

          #619479
          duncan webster 1
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            Posted by duncan webster on 02/11/2022 15:59:09:

            I think the use of cycloidal gears for clocks was debunked a long time ago. I've quoted the link in previous posts. For involute gears, the tooth form for internal teeth is the inverse of an external gear with the same number of teeth. If this is a large number, straight teeth might work?

            here's the link . Looks sound to me

            #619542
            Sam Stones
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              epicyclic - david noble.jpg

              Not my usual standard, but you know what I mean David.cheeky

              With too many unforeseen issues, I'm no longer able to take this much further.

              Anyway, who cares if it's cycloidal, involute, convolute, or even inefficient at this stage, you've got to start somewhere. A scrap of plywood and some panel pins comes to mind.

              By the way, you're to be congratulated on the progress you've made since we began swapping notes.

              I wish you well,

              Sam

              #619543
              David Noble
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                Thank you Sam. But you know a lot of it is due to the help I've received here from many people not least from you.

                Best Wishes, David

                #619807
                Michael Gilligan
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                  Posted by duncan webster on 02/11/2022 16:50:44:

                  Posted by duncan webster on 02/11/2022 15:59:09:

                  I think the use of cycloidal gears for clocks was debunked a long time ago. I've quoted the link in previous posts. For involute gears, the tooth form for internal teeth is the inverse of an external gear with the same number of teeth. If this is a large number, straight teeth might work?

                  here's the link . Looks sound to me

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                  I have just looked at that essay again, Duncan … principally because I realised I had made a contradictory on another thread.

                  Could you please have a look at this: **LINK**

                  Engaging of involute gears (meshing)

                  dont know Am I right in believing that the centre distance between involute gears is actually quite important ?

                  … and therefore “The involute tooth prevailed because its motion is independent of center distance variation” might be a false premise ?

                  MichaelG.

                  Edited By Michael Gilligan on 05/11/2022 10:54:32

                  #619809
                  John Haine
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                    IIRC since there is only one involute curve for a circle of given radius, the effect of varying centre distance of a pair of involute gears is just to vary the effective pressure angle. Nevertheless there are other aspects of tooth design that are important that do depend on pressure angle and pitch circle so it's desirable to use the "right" centre distance.

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