Electrolux vacuum – Need to make a missing wheel

[OuBallieParticipant @ouballie]

More advise please, this time on making a replacement wheel that other half somehow 'mislaid' whilst using the vacuum.

I could of course make a mould and use epoxy or similar to make one but wonder what the alternative solutions would be.

The easiest no doubt from wood, the various pieces glued up and then a nut and bolt to secure a large washer on the inside in place of the moulded in 'clip' of the originals.

Geoff

[OuBallieParticipant @ouballie]

[John RuddParticipant @johnrudd16576]

 

Posted by OuBallie on 23/10/2018 15:08:42:

More advise please, this time on making a replacement wheel that other half somehow 'mislaid' whilst using the vacuum.

I could of course make a mould and use epoxy or similar to make one but wonder what the alternative solutions would be.

Geoff

Aww, c'mon….just treat her to a new vacuum cleaner…( you could then divert the broken one for the workshop…)

How about making a wheel from alloy, more durable than wood and easier to machine than a steel one?

Edited By John Rudd on 23/10/2018 15:27:41

[AJWParticipant @ajw]

Bet you find it once it’s made!

Alan

[Carl Wilson 4Participant @carlwilson4]

The first question in maintenance is is it worth repairing?

[peak4Participant @peak4]

I know where you are coming from, as I tend to use the workshop to mend stuff too.

However, is your errant wheel listed HERE, sometimes it's just easier.

Bill

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

I'd look online first for a replacement wheel. I'd be surprised if you can't find one – millions fell out of that mould, likely.

A piece of Delrin 73 mm diameter would not be cheap, or a plate of it to cut a wheel out of. To get the "collet" style fastening of the old wheel, you would probably have to make the centre in one piece and the wheel from another, with screws thru the webs to join them. Kind of complex and probably expensive for material, and not a great way to fasten a wheel anyway, they did it like that originally for el cheapo manufacturing.

Maybe instead you could fit a tight fitting hard wooden bung glued into the spigot, and pass a steel axle through it. A new wheel to run on said axle could be turned up from aluminum or PVC tube to form a rim and a wheel centre of steel or aluminum or PVC glued and/or pinned to the rim. If you used a bolt with a nylock nut for the axle, no way Her Honour will be losing that one!

Good luck.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

A candidate for 3D printing in PETG if there ever was one!

If you have no joy with Bill's link (and I reckon you will) you could use the free Alibre Atom3D licence (plug, plug), draw one up, save as an STL and send it to Shapeways for printing

Colour match may not be spot on…

Neil

[Martin WParticipant @martinw]

Geoff

If you know the model and number of the cleaner then you could try looking here. They not only stock current machine spares but also some for older models that are now not available from the manufacturer.

Martin

[OuBallieParticipant @ouballie]

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I've searches the two sites mentioned, but nothing for the 900252111 model this one is.

Will have to have a think on which of the methods suggested I will use.

Geoff – Updates as and when as usual.

PS.

fixed the £5 Dyson Telescope she bought as 'Not working' at a car boot sale, it taking longer to figure out how to get the motor out than actual fixing, and that entailed a new brush and soldering its lead to the spring holder.

Geoff – It's the satisfaction of bring things back to life instead of binning them.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Geoff,

Right with you on returning things to a useful life, instead of the Kleenex mentality of "scrap and replace"

After all, we are supposed to be Engineers (comes from the same Greek root like ingenious)

Does the wheel HAVE to be "plastic"? I'd rather make one out of Aluminium, and run it on a steel axle secured (possibly threaded) to the housing with an anaerobic.That should outlast the rest of the machine!

Howard

[Frances IoMParticipant @francesiom58905]

the reason for plastic rather than metal is that bumps into furniture or paintwork are unlikely to damage them – I found a workable Hoover at our local amenity centre that just needed an full clean + a new wheel which was easily done out of some scrap of nylon bar – very convenient as my too heavy 1st generation Dyson had finally jammed its wheels

Edited By Frances IoM on 25/10/2018 23:28:43

[OuBallieParticipant @ouballie]

It's done.

More photos in the 'Vacuum machines' Album.

Dyson:
Apropos my PS on last post, herewith photos of said brush replacement.
They are certainly NOT meant to be replaced and just another design 'feature'.
The brushes are held in place by a cover that has lugs twisted when installed, let alone the hustle in removing the motor.

The brush crumbled as I withdrew it.

Electrolux:
I will have to resort to using my DSL camera I think in order to prevent the utter annoyance of phone photos appearing sideways.
Howard Lewis' suggestion of an aluminium wheel echoed with my first though.
Herewith progress and end result:

Works a treat

Geoff – i've achieved something lately at last

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

Nice job! well done, both on returning the implement to service, and keeping it out of the landfill while it can be made to keep working .

[FMESParticipant @fmes]

With ESpares showing 34 pages of Electrolux wheels and most of them costing less than a tenner, was it really worth while?

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

There is nothing better than being told you cant fix it and proving you can, I would fix every time.

Martin P

[OuBallieParticipant @ouballie]

Jeff/Martin,

FMES:

Checked that site twice now, and all others I could find but nothing for this model machine.

No dimensions shown anywhere that I could find, so wasn't going to go through the hassle of buying, only to return ad nausium.

Only took a few hours to make, governed by the amount of metal the lathe would remove.

Geoff – Most satisfying as was fixing the Dyson.

[FMESParticipant @fmes]

Posted by OuBallie on 05/11/2018 10:41:18:

Jeff/Martin,

FMES:

Checked that site twice now, and all others I could find but nothing for this model machine.

No dimensions shown anywhere that I could find, so wasn't going to go through the hassle of buying, only to return ad nausium.

Only took a few hours to make, governed by the amount of metal the lathe would remove.

Geoff – Most satisfying as was fixing the Dyson.

I bet you didn't email or call them, they found an obsolete pump for my washing machine within two days, and if you provide them with the model and part number details they usually come up trumps.

I don't mind manufacturing things that can no longer be bought, but time is too valuable to be messing around with making stuff that is cheaper to buy.

Sometimes you just have to weigh up costs to replace against time and materials required to manufacture.

[Mike ClarkeParticipant @mikeclarke87958]

Nice job Geoff – and looks smart. I think you should do the other side too!

I once had a little Sharp milling machine which had aluminium handles – and every time I used it my hands would be absolutely jet black. I guess this was mostly down to oil and grease on the skin, but I would be mindful of the potential of the bare aluminium leaving a mark on light coloured carpets.

[John RuddParticipant @johnrudd16576]

Posted by FMES on 05/11/2018 11:43:51

time is too valuable to be messing around with making stuff that is cheaper to buy.

Sometimes you just have to weigh up costs to replace against time and materials required to manufacture.

But if the replacement part made by one'sself is of better quality then the investment is worth it

Geoff, good result….I wish you and your replacement wheel a long and lasting relationship…

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by John Rudd on 05/11/2018 13:09:05:

Geoff, good result….I wish you and your replacement wheel a long and lasting relationship…

.

+1

MichaelG.

[John PenfoldParticipant @johnpenfold74932]

I bet you didn't ask the indoor manager if she wanted it fixed. Most likely would have asked for a more efficient, more powerful, lighter and cordless.

I'm sure that Mr Grumpy bragging about his repair got a lot of muttering .

John

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Good Work Geoff!

You have the satisfaction of having made something that may not be available: Will work as well, if not better , than the original: will probably survive far longer than the original.

Oh the Job Satisfaction!

Especially after being told "You won't get one of them. Haven't been available for years"

Years ago, the local Austin agent told an ex colleague "You won't get a replacement for that broken clutch slave cylinder push rod for your A35" I wonder if he went back and showed the one that we made up? Only a bit of welding and filing involved.

The downside? Probably the better wheel will result in something else failing. At least you know what to do when the one on the other side breaks!

People like us are no good for today's "Kleenex" Society. We like Trigger's broom, three new heads and only two handles.

Howard

Fat fingers again!

Edited By Howard Lewis on 06/11/2018 17:58:38

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

> Trigger's broom

The American's have grandad's axe, we have Trigger's broom…

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