electric blower 12 volt but witch is the best to convert please

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electric blower 12 volt but witch is the best to convert please

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    Ron Hancock
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      @ronhancock63652

      I want to make a blower from a car blower can anyone tell me the from what car is the best to use.

      I have a blower i bought from show but its very weak i need one with a lot more humph.

      I have noticed most seen to prefer car rather than the small ones you can buy for the job

      Thanks Ron

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      Ron Hancock
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        #234304
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          I think most use ex MOD blowers, also watch you don't have too much humph as too quick a heat up is not good for the engine

          #234307
          Harry Wilkes
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            @harrywilkes58467

            I've not tried it myself but the back end of last year I saw I chap using a 'blower' on a 4" Garrett it was one of those 12v fan's used to blow up air mattress, the chap had it inserted at 45 deg's into a chimney extension. It seemed to work quite well providing just enough draft to pull the fire. I have also seen one of those MOD type again at 45 deg's on a chimmey.

            H

            #234310
            duncan webster 1
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              @duncanwebster1

              Those ex ministry ones are meant to work on 24v. On 12v I find mine pretty useless, so I bought a 12-24 v converter from Hong Kong which made it a lot better

              #234311
              Ron Hancock
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                @ronhancock63652

                Mine is an ex military one useless plus when you have others steaming on the Bay's mine will not pull the fire up.

                It will at home when I connect to battery charger but still feels very weak.

                Thanks Ron

                #234314
                john fletcher 1
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                  @johnfletcher1

                  I don't know where you are going to work your blower, but if its a 12 volt motor give it a few more volt,if it needs more humph. Most of these small motor will easily run on 24 without to much stress as you are only going to run the thing for a few minutes. We had a 12 volt car dynamo running as a motor on 24 volts for years, lifting things out of a tank of paraffin, long before H&S. Not being a steam man I suggest you notice what JasonB above has to say and let every thing expand slowly. John

                  #234317
                  Dennis Rayner
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                    @dennisrayner52782

                    I've got a 24v blower which I power from my 18v cordless drill battery. Works for ne.

                    #234318
                    Chris Gunn
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                      @chrisgunn36534

                      Ron, I just scrounged a U/S fan from the guy that serviced our heating, my CH boiler has a fan exhaust as many do, and these fail after 7or 8 years, this is the third new one on my boiler. The fan motor was gone but the fan was OK. this is a steel fan in a steel housing so can take the heat. It is simple to remove the old motor and fit a 12/24v motor of your choice. You will need a adaptor, also easy to make. I suggest you make friends with a gas service engineer or go on the scrounge round the local service place.

                      Chris Gunn

                      #234332
                      nigel jones 5
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                        @nigeljones5

                        I bought one of the ex military cooling fans recently along with a 7.2ah 12v gel battery – it blows plenty strong for me and has a roaring fire in 10 minutes on my 71/4 invicta. I posted a question regarding how much heat they can withstand as the get very hot drawing the gasses through.

                        #234335
                        Harry Wilkes
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                          @harrywilkes58467
                          Posted by Chris Gunn on 12/04/2016 16:28:15:

                          Ron, I just scrounged a U/S fan from the guy that serviced our heating, my CH boiler has a fan exhaust as many do, and these fail after 7or 8 years, this is the third new one on my boiler. The fan motor was gone but the fan was OK. this is a steel fan in a steel housing so can take the heat. It is simple to remove the old motor and fit a 12/24v motor of your choice. You will need a adaptor, also easy to make. I suggest you make friends with a gas service engineer or go on the scrounge round the local service place.

                          Chris Gunn

                          Did just the same thing fitting the fan with a 12v 'smiths' motor it's very powerful and I have to use speed control unit so that I don't raise steam to quickly, the only other drawback it that it's quite large !

                          H

                          #234347
                          MichaelR
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                            @michaelr

                            I use a 12volt car heater motor got from a car scrap yard, I have a rheostat wired in to vary the speed.

                            12 Volt Blower

                            Mike.

                            #234376
                            Ron Hancock
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                              @ronhancock63652

                              Thanks for all suggestions our supply on steaming bays are very weak. If two or three Running they nearly come to a stop. My Black 5 seems to take a long time to get to 30 psi. It's a 5 inch with large boiler. It may be me being a novice. Going to take to club tomorrow for steam test fingers crossed.

                              Ron

                              #234378
                              julian atkins
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                                @julianatkins58923

                                Hi Ron,

                                I also have ex WD 24 volt blowers, but the club tracks Ive been a member of have both 12V and 24V supply.

                                At home on my test track in the garden I have only 12V supply. The blowers are a bit slow as a result.

                                With a silver soldered copper boiler there is no reason whatsoever why the boiler should not be brought from cold to working pressure in 5-7 minutes IMHO.

                                A compressor fed blower is used in many clubs eg the SMLS BeechHurst club, and also the Cardiff club.

                                Cheers,

                                Julian

                                #234380
                                Bazyle
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                                  @bazyle

                                  Arrange a variable bypass hole between the fan and chimney to reduce the blast and the cold air also reduces the temperature.

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