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[Mick HenshallParticipant @mickhenshall99321]

No with respect lets not move this subject slightly lets work from the position that the authorities just tak e the p'' ss and walk all over us, my sevice career of 25 years ended up with me in an alcohol unit cus I couldn't cope that don' t make me a bad person I just couldn't cope I am a regular human being but I am fed up with my apparent betters riding roughshot over me and the rank and file of this country and I am going to say it " Release Royal Marine A"

Mick h

[Anonymous]

Posted by JA on 17/12/2016 11:44:52:

I believe modern encryption methods use a key and trap door technique that has been around for about 20 years.

Rather longer ago than that; trapdoor functions were suggested for use in cryptography in the 1970s. They were certainly around when I was looking at using encryption techniques for use in coding signals for pulse compression radar in the early 1980s.

Trapdoor encryption is not unbreakable, but the intention is to make it so time consuming that any information contained in the message is worthless by the time the trapdoor has been opened.

As it turned out encryption codes for use in pulse compression radar turned out to be useless; which I could have foreseen had I thought about the problem a bit harder in the first place.

Andrew

[mark costello 1Participant @markcostello1]

Thought bitcoin was hacked with much money disappeared not to be traced?

[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

Posted by mark costello 1 on 17/12/2016 14:07:16:

Thought bitcoin was hacked with much money disappeared not to be traced?

Bitcoin has been stolen a fair few times, just like anything else. What has never happened is the breaking of the cryptography that secures it.

Bitcoin has always been stolen by the purchaser either entrusting their passwords to others ( usually exchanges, which get hacked ), or by being lax with the privacy of their passwords, but never by a deficiency in the Bitcoin system itself.

The rise in its price for most of this year ( trading @ about £630 or US$788 ) as I write this ) is almost certainly due to the increased confidence people have in it – you only need to look to see what's happening in Venezuela and India to understand why their populations use it as a store of value that cannot be confiscated.

Martin.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Presumably that's why the lad who hacked TalkTalk asked to be paid off in Bitcoin

Neil

[Mick HenshallParticipant @mickhenshall99321]

I amsure people find this forum informative, I have decided it is not for me for a number of reasons, eg if you ain' t part of the hardcore posters generally any input it generally ignored, there are a few inspector meticulous's around, not to mention people whose production rate exceeds anything a mere mortal can achieve, i always end up feeling quite inadequate and my thanks to those that have helped but I shall now retreat into my workshop and bumble on

Mick h

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

Bitcoin scares them. Expect it to have a tough ride before it ever becomes mainstream, including false flag type attacks.

The real genius in Bitcoin & the thing that scares them most is the blockchain. Unlike most financial systems the blockchain cannot be manipulated or suffer the foul stench of corruption. The blockchain idea is being integrated into lots of things that will become mainstream.

What we really need & possibly what they may never let us have, is a simple system of micro payments. A small sum, say £10 could be held in a wallet & micro payments i.e 0.0001p deducted for an agreed transaction. Think along the lines of replacing web advertising for subscription to a forum. Folk are extremely reluctant to pay a regular fee to subscribe to a website but might be happy if it were economical to replace intrusive advertising with a 0.0001p micro payment !

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Mick Henshall on 17/12/2016 12:55:21:

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my service career of 25 years ended up with me in an alcohol unit cus I couldn't cope that don' t make me a bad person

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Mick h

Absolutely you are not a bad person Mick. You should be proud of your ability to talk about the problems you faced on leaving the Services. You are not alone – bad things happening to ex-servicemen and women is far too common. There is more awareness these days (Help for Heroes etc.), but I'm sure much more could be done.

Meantime, don't let the b******ds grind you down – have fun in your workshop.

Best wishes,

Dave

[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

Posted by Mick Charity on 17/12/2016 17:28:37:

Bitcoin scares them. Expect it to have a tough ride before it ever becomes mainstream, including false flag type attacks.

The real genius in Bitcoin & the thing that scares them most is the blockchain. Unlike most financial systems the blockchain cannot be manipulated or suffer the foul stench of corruption. The blockchain idea is being integrated into lots of things that will become mainstream.

What we really need & possibly what they may never let us have, is a simple system of micro payments. A small sum, say £10 could be held in a wallet & micro payments i.e 0.0001p deducted for an agreed transaction. Think along the lines of replacing web advertising for subscription to a forum. Folk are extremely reluctant to pay a regular fee to subscribe to a website but might be happy if it were economical to replace intrusive advertising with a 0.0001p micro payment !

I agree with your sentiments, although something is only a blockchain if it is run & secured on a decentralised network of computers outside of any authority – otherwise it's just a database. The only reason a group of disconnected parties would do such a thing is for some kind of reward like bitcoin.

The micro-payments are sure to come – it's still early stages, but when things take off it'll be the biggest & most beneficial thing to happen in our lifetimes.

Martin.

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

Posted by blowlamp on 17/12/2016 18:48:42:

 

 

I agree with your sentiments, although something is only a blockchain if it is run & secured on a decentralised network of computers outside of any authority – otherwise it's just a database. The only reason a group of disconnected parties would do such a thing is for some kind of reward like bitcoin.

Martin.

Mathew 5:5 "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth".

One day it will be ours. The blockchain exists, they didn't see the threat untill it was too late & now they cannot take it away from us. They will create their substitute, their false icon, but we are the meek & we will never worship it.

Edited By Mick Charity on 17/12/2016 19:10:43

[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

I'm not sure where it went but there was a thread about Duckduckgo round here somewhere. Yes I use it, and have been very happy with it. I'm less happy with Firefox these days, as it seems to crash with depressing regularity. I've not heard of Pale Moon, but it sounds worth taking a look at.

George

[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

Posted by Cyril Bonnett on 17/12/2016 11:42:07:… I have been a spy and spied on since a kid and have every I spy book that has come out…

Odhu ntinggo!

George

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Georgineer on 17/12/2016 23:08:32:

I'm not sure where it went but there was a thread about Duckduckgo round here somewhere. Yes I use it, and have been very happy with it.

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Thanks, George

MichaelG.

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I did say, in my opening post, "Rants & Conspiracy Theories are welcome."

[Mick HenshallParticipant @mickhenshall99321]

To " silly old duffer" — thank you

Mick h

[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 17/12/2016 12:22:11:

If our government feels the need to spy on people to keep myself & my family safe from the murderers who abound this world of ours that's fine by me!

Tony

The evidence leads me to think that the spies and the murderers are the same organisation.

Martin.

[Tony Pratt 1Participant @tonypratt1]

Posted by blowlamp on 18/12/2016 10:47:21:

Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 17/12/2016 12:22:11:

If our government feels the need to spy on people to keep myself & my family safe from the murderers who abound this world of ours that's fine by me!

Tony

 

 

The evidence leads me to think that the spies and the murderers are the same organisation.

What evidence, are you really serious?

Tony

 

 

 

 

Edited By Tony Pratt 1 on 18/12/2016 10:55:20

[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

A recent example is the British government sells billions of pounds worth of weapons to the Saudi Arabian government and the Saudi government uses them to destroy huge areas of Yemen.

Perversely, after 18 months or more, our government & media 'discovers' the carnage happening to the people of Yemen and launches an aid appeal to help ease their suffering.

Meanwhile, the sale of weapons continues to Saudi Arabia.

Is it really such a surprise, that in turn, these conflicts find their way back to countries that profit from the turmoil?

Martin.

[MWParticipant @mw27036]

Posted by blowlamp on 18/12/2016 11:34:39:

Is it really such a surprise, that in turn, these conflicts find their way back to countries that profit from the turmoil?

 

 

Martin.

You are correct, and I know this is a controversial subject so I wont divulge into what I personally think too much,

but it's important not to totally believe everything you are "officially" told because part of weaponry in any war you look back on since day 1, was deception, intended either for a foreign audience or a domestic rallying exercise.

The basic idea of it is "make us look like the good guys, make them look like the bad guys". Just ask yourself, who really does totally bad or totally good things all their lives!?

It only really ever unravels with hindsight and "hand-me-downs" of crumbs of truth.

Michael W

Edited By Michael Walters on 18/12/2016 12:43:54

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

To true. Collatoral damage score I hear is similar maybe higher than the other unknown but terrible figure mentioned a lot of late only done much more quickly. On the fast track method UK was claiming that they were getting an unfair share of the subsequent "repair" work that should allow the country to recover costs.

Best shut up or some one may close the thread.

I tried duckduckgo for a while but eventually switched back to google. Oddly Yahoo has been of more use at times when buying something. Information tends to be more difficult to find on all of them for a number of years now. A page getting more hits than others doesn't make the info any more accurate and a lot of it is just plagiarised anyway so myths persist. The opening part of this post might be a myth too.

John

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[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Ajohnw on 18/12/2016 13:28:46:

… I tried duckduckgo for a while but eventually switched back to google.

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So … getting back to the first line of my opening post: Have you found a reliable way to force google to include a specific word ?

The minus sign still works for exclusion, but the plus sign does not work for inclusion … and putting a word in quotes doesn't appear to work either.

MichaelG.

[Sam Longley 1Participant @samlongley1]

I tried duckduckgo for a while but eventually switched back to google. Oddly Yahoo has been of more use –

With a name like " Duckduckgo" it does not give one a lot of confidence does it.

One sort of conjures up the board meeting where they named it. Probably all sat there with egg smeared round their chops fighting over the free gift in the cornflakes, whilst seeing who could dream up the silliest name.

Still probably get the last laugh, ending up millionaires before they leave school

[JourneymanParticipant @journeyman]

Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 18/12/2016 15:27:15:

With a name like " Duckduckgo" it does not give one a lot of confidence does it.

"Google", "Yahoo", "Bing" – real confidence boosters . What we need is "No.1 Search Engine" or "Seek and Ye Shall Find".

I think internet naming is under the control of those at nursery school… On second thoughts they would probably come up with something sensible!

John

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Sam,

Quoting fron Wikipedia:

The company is based in 20 Paoli Pike, Paoli, Pennsylvania, United States, in Greater Philadelphia, and has 21 employees. The company name originates from the children's game duck, duck, goose.^[7][8]

… so, perhaps slightly more relevant than it first appears .

MichaelG.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 18/12/2016 15:54:44

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Journeyman on 18/12/2016 15:40:44:

Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 18/12/2016 15:27:15:

With a name like " Duckduckgo" it does not give one a lot of confidence does it.

"Google", "Yahoo", "Bing" – real confidence boosters . What we need is "No.1 Search Engine" or "Seek and Ye Shall Find".

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"Ask Jeeves" was a good name … but that's long-gone.

MichaelG.

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

I know Michael. It drives me nuts at times. I find quotes work with phrases. In fact I used it an hour ago to find an item for sale to look at prices. I suspect it came up with results that didn't meet the quoted part but did put those early on.

This is what google should do

**LINK**

At times I used google as an info source at work. Usually to get a germ of an idea about some subject. The most useful thing I found was the – sign. Often a whole host of them but there is so much crap about now I'm not sure I would bother. The other point of course is that taking all web based info as being correct isn't a good idea. Probably never has been. There has always been a need to look at several on any subject and then use one's noddle.

I tried to use Ebay's wild card search some time ago – it came up sorry we don't support that any more. Not tried since. I get the impression that just about any search anywhere tends to produce results that aren't wanted. I get the impression some one thinks this is a good idea – might see something we didn't know we wanted.

There are sites that list advanced google search terms. This term seems to work

location:UK Birmingham "welding supplier"

You might find the words scholarly article bring up an interesting link – Google Scholar. The term itself did have an effect on google in the past. A word of warning though – thesese etc need very careful scrutiny as do all sources like that.

John

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