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  • #260207
    mick70
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      @mick70

      need to drill some ball bearings of different sizes.

      what is best way need to be drilled carefull

      they are different sizes and for bosses wife but she won't say what they are for so can't give more info.

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      #15880
      mick70
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        @mick70
        #260209
        Bob Rodgerson
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          @bobrodgerson97362

          I would think that they could be successfully be held in an accurate three jaw chuck and centre drilled using the tailstock followed by the drill to make the hole.

          #260210
          Roderick Jenkins
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            @roderickjenkins93242

            I can't remember if it was the Quorn or the Pillar tool book that recommended making a top hat type split collet for holding balls in the 3 jaw chuck. That's what I used for the ball handles for these tools. I assume you will have to anneal the balls before drilling. Possibly a solid carbide drill will work if the balls are still hard but I have no experience of that.

            HTH,

            Rod

            edited for spelling

            Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 09/10/2016 22:03:18

            #260211
            Nick_G
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              @nick_g

              .

              ER collet holder if you have one.

              I recently looked for steel balls on ebay. Some are hardened which is no surprise and some ore not.

              Nick

              #260212
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133

                Alternatively … Drill them on the milling machine [or even the drill, if it's really good]; clamped between two pates, each with a bored hole about 2/3 of the ball diameter.

                MichaelG.

                #260213
                Dusty
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                  @dusty

                  It would be helpful to know what the balls are made from, if they are standard balls from a bearing they will be hardened and as such will be a bugger to drill. They are generally case hardened and the easiest way is to grind the case away at a point you wish to drill. Make a collet with a recess to take the ball which should be no deeper than the dia of the ball. Make three saw cuts in the collet equally spaced on the periphery. Place the ball in the collet in the 3 jaw and drill. It helps if the dia of the back of the collet is slightly smaller than the front so the pressure of the chuck jaws is over the ball. Don't try to be too greedy with your drilling as you are only holding on a small area. The chuck jaws should be between the saw cuts. You will of course need to make one for each size of ball being drilled

                  #260222
                  John Reese
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                    @johnreese12848

                    Rod Jenkins suggestion of using a collet is a good one. If the ball is hardened and you are drilling with carbide you need the shoulder in the collet to keep the ball from sliding back in the chuck.

                    #260226
                    Hopper
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                      @hopper
                      Posted by naughtyboy on 09/10/2016 21:14:32:

                      they are different sizes and for bosses wife but she won't say what they are for so can't give more info.

                      Yeah, right.

                      #260227
                      Roderick Jenkins
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                        @roderickjenkins93242

                        Dusty has given a more comprehensive description but what both of us failed to make clear was that the collet should be blind so that, as John says, the the ball is prevented from being pushed deeper into the chuck. I guess a chuck backstop would work equally well. Tomorrow, I'll see if I can find the collets I made and take a picture.

                        Rod

                        #260234
                        John Ockleshaw 1
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                          @johnockleshaw1

                          Use your sink type spark eroder, especially easy if it has digital readout on the table

                          John

                          #260235
                          Speedy Builder5
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                            @speedybuilder5

                            Buy the boss's wife a string of beads ?

                            #260237
                            JasonB
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                              @jasonb

                              Top hat bush in the 3-jaw, have a back to the bush but also a hole so you can push the ball back out

                              Or collet with backstop

                              Edited By JasonB on 10/10/2016 07:20:28

                              #260238
                              MW
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                                @mw27036

                                you could hold them in a split bush in the mouth of the hole or pocket radius the same as your diameter and clamp it in a 3 jaw,

                                Either that or just superglue it onto a mandrel, don't worry, should clean up ok.

                                If they are very small you could just hold them in a vice with soft jaws and use a dremel to do it.

                                Jason beat me to it with the 1st suggestion. Definitely more than one way to skin this cat. 

                                Michael W

                                 

                                Edited By Michael Walters on 10/10/2016 07:24:47

                                #260243
                                Neil Wyatt
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                                  @neilwyatt
                                  Posted by naughtyboy on 09/10/2016 21:14:32:

                                  need to drill some ball bearings of different sizes.

                                  what is best way need to be drilled carefull

                                  they are different sizes and for bosses wife but she won't say what they are for so can't give more info.

                                  Perhaps he ought to be getting nervous…

                                  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov

                                  Neil

                                  (Now how on earth did I remember that?)

                                  #260246
                                  Mike Poole
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                                    @mikepoole82104
                                    Posted by Neil Wyatt on 10/10/2016 08:30:50

                                    Perhaps he ought to be getting nervous…

                                    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov

                                    Neil

                                    (Now how on earth did I remember that?)

                                    It was mentioned on a tv program a few days ago, I couldn't believe it was nearly 40 years ago.

                                    Mike

                                    #260247
                                    Roderick Jenkins
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                                      @roderickjenkins93242

                                      Found 'em smiley

                                      ball collet.jpg

                                      The slot in the side of most of them was to allow for the arm of a ball handle. The small one at the front was for drilling the ball to go on the end.

                                      Rod

                                      #260251
                                      Neil Wyatt
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                                        @neilwyatt
                                        Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 10/10/2016 08:50:01:

                                        Found 'em smiley

                                        ball collet.jpg

                                        The slot in the side of most of them was to allow for the arm of a ball handle. The small one at the front was for drilling the ball to go on the end.

                                        Now you're marked down as a Quorn builder.

                                        Neil

                                        #260256
                                        Roderick Jenkins
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                                          @roderickjenkins93242

                                          Guilty m'lud:

                                          quorn.jpg

                                          I sold it -awkward cantankerous thing. This is the only record I have of it.

                                          Rod

                                          Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 10/10/2016 10:02:14

                                          #260257
                                          Ian Parkin
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                                            @ianparkin39383

                                            Apparently women use steel balls to redevelop muscles after surgery !! the hole and therefore a string pull is used to retrieve them

                                            #260258
                                            Samsaranda
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                                              @samsaranda

                                              Too much information!

                                              #260259
                                              Ady1
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                                                @ady1

                                                I've had to work on a few case hardened bits over the years and I've found that spot drilling with a carbide tipped masonry tool gets me through the skin and then HSS can get on with the rest of it

                                                #260269
                                                Jon Gibbs
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                                                  @jongibbs59756

                                                  Those cheap spear-point TCT tile drills are especially handy for such jobs but I'd also have thought grinding a little flat with a Dremel and AlOx wheel would also get the job done.

                                                  #260270
                                                  SillyOldDuffer
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                                                    @sillyoldduffer

                                                    If buying new Simply Bearings say in their loose bearing specifications whether a particular type of ball can be drilled or not.

                                                    #260271
                                                    mick70
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                                                      @mick70

                                                      all i know is she is an artist/sculptor.

                                                      she never tells boss what she is working on until it's finished.

                                                      had me drill and tap some brass rods that she will bend to shape.

                                                      so we know it's gold and silver colored and that's it.

                                                      thanks for the info will just wait till he gets them to know exactly what they are made off.

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