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  • #718992
    Vic
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      @vic

      I wonder what these Carbide drill bits are like? Set of four on places like eBay for about £6.

      IMG_9512

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      #719001
      Brian Wood
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        @brianwood45127

        I haven’t seen ones like that before, but from the design I suspect you need high speed drive, heavy pressure and sturdy equipment to be able to bore your way through by heating, eg melting the hole rather than drilling it.

        Others may know better

        Brian

        #719004
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          They are meant more for stone, ceramic, composite etc which they work like any other spade type bit. Only difference is they put a bit of a helix on the shank which being smaller than the carbide tip’s diameter won’t do a lot to help clear dust from deep holes.

          The 1/4″ hex shanks are likely to be used in cordless drills so no need for heavy equipment.

          #719007
          Ian P
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            @ianp

            Those look weird!

            If the tip, (which appears to have no cutting edges) is carbide and relies on extreme pressure to create a hole, why would it have flutes I wonder.

            Not enough info in the image to really identify what the drills are.

             

            Ian P

            #719010
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              better pics of similar bits in this or this listing

              #719012
              Ian P
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                @ianp

                I did some searching before I replied earlier but could not find any that looked like the one Brian showed.

                Now, having looked closely at the picture I can see an outline lighter shaded bullet shape which I originally thought was the blister packaging.

                IMHO the drills are ideal exhibition demo fodder, although I am sure they will work (to an extent).

                Ian P

                 

                #719016
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133

                  Well … they even claim to be ‘Eccentric’ !!

                  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305426205545

                  MichaelG.

                  #719033
                  Vic
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                    @vic
                    On Ian P Said:

                    Those look weird!

                     

                     

                    Ian P

                    Yes, that’s what I thought.

                    #719038
                    Nigel Graham 2
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                      @nigelgraham2

                      Apart from very high cone angles the e-Bay advertisement suggests their cutting-edge geometry is not ever so different from any masonry drill: no rake and shallow clearance. They scrape rather than slice the material.

                      Odd-looking flutes too, though I don’t think their outer diameter is much less than the tip diameter. It is hard to tell from the heading photo.

                      However, I won’t be rushing to buy any.

                      I remain Sir, Yours Unconvinced….

                      #719040
                      Vic
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                        @vic

                        Also available without the flutes in Blue! 😆

                        IMG_9515

                        #719043
                        Ian P
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                          @ianp
                          On Vic Said:

                          Also available without the flutes in Blue! 😆

                           

                          Or fluteless as I would call them! (shades of Atkins’s ‘doctors in training’)

                          Ian P

                          #719053
                          JasonB
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                            @jasonb

                            As I said really no different to the traditional spade type tile drill. Which work well on certamic tile, slate, marble, linestone etc. I use them for work without problem. All they have done if put fancy flutes on them and made the shanks so you can use them in an impact driver or cordless with quick change.

                             

                            #719074
                            Mike Hurley
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                              @mikehurley60381
                              On Michael Gilligan Said:

                              Well … they even claim to be ‘Eccentric’ !!

                              https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305426205545

                              MichaelG.

                              Lots of other ebay ads for these say the same. Can’t get my head around ‘eccentric’ drill bits, although if you search the web seems a common term in drilling parlance, but appears to be more related to pipes and heavy duty stuff for oil wells. Anybody got any ideas? Or is it simply a translation error somewhere along the line that has propagated through?

                              #719093
                              Vic
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                                @vic

                                Another variation with four cutting edges.

                                IMG_9524

                                #719120
                                Bill Phinn
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                                  @billphinn90025
                                  On Mike Hurley Said:
                                  On Michael Gilligan Said:

                                  Well … they even claim to be ‘Eccentric’ !!

                                  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305426205545

                                  MichaelG.

                                  Lots of other ebay ads for these say the same. Can’t get my head around ‘eccentric’ drill bits, although if you search the web seems a common term in drilling parlance, but appears to be more related to pipes and heavy duty stuff for oil wells. Anybody got any ideas? Or is it simply a translation error somewhere along the line that has propagated through?

                                  On brief inspection, it looks like it’s one seller with multiple accounts, or only a handful of sellers all using the same cut-and-pasted text and selling broadly similar products.

                                  The text, as well as the seller’s understanding of their product, gets even more “eccentric” when you look at what they say in the actual listings:

                                  “This Crooked Drill Bit is made of high-speed steel, which is designed for drilling in wood, plastic, and metal. It is used to thread the inside of a hole, creating a female thread that can accept a mating male thread. The Crooked Drill Bit is a type of drill bit that has cutting edges at the tip and along the flutes, which are used to cut the threads. It is used in conjunction with a hand drill or electric drill to machine threads.”

                                  To me, the use of the words “eccentric” and “crooked” with “drill” suggests the seller may have been looking for the word “twist”.

                                  Ultimately, can we have high expectations, or any at all, from a drill bit seller who also sells “pooping dog butt toothpaste toppers” on the same platform?

                                  #719201
                                  Mike Hurley
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                                    @mikehurley60381

                                    “pooping dog butt toothpaste toppers”- Unbelievable!

                                     

                                    #719212
                                    peak4
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                                      @peak4

                                      I would have a guess that the multiple account scenario is likely drop shipping

                                      https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/selling/posting-items/setting-postage-options/drop-shipping?id=4176

                                      Bill

                                      #720021
                                      peak4
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                                        @peak4
                                        On Michael Gilligan Said:

                                        Well … they even claim to be ‘Eccentric’ !!

                                        https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305426205545

                                        MichaelG.

                                        Oddly, I’ve just had a link to this style pop up on my Facebook feed, pointing to a .co.uk website
                                        I’m guessing that the eccentric part of the description refers to the point, which, unlike normal spade glass drill, does seem off-centre/
                                        The descriptions remain a little quaint though; also mentions high speed steel, though I’m sure they mean some sort of carbide.

                                        High-strength eccentric twist drill bit

                                        #720036
                                        Mike Hurley
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                                          @mikehurley60381

                                          21 reviews only, all 5 star!

                                          Nothing iffy there then?

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