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    blowlamp
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      @blowlamp

      I linked to this router on the previous page of this thread with no responses, but I do see it as another way forward.

       
      Martin.

      Edited By Neil Wyatt on 04/09/2016 20:08:32

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      #253820
      john swift 1
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        @johnswift1

        Hi Martin

        I guess the previous one line post was easy to over look

        I think I've only used a hand held router half a dozen times and a device like that

        would of made it easier to make things fit first time

        it reminds me of a video of an industrial robot in a car factory using another robot

        with a better position resolution to glue windscreens in place

        the question is can you justify buying one

        John

        PS

        at $2000 , I think I'd buy a CNC milling machine first instead of the shaper origin

        it will be more usefull to me

         

        Edited By john swift 1 on 03/09/2016 13:12:48

        Edited By Neil Wyatt on 04/09/2016 20:08:38

        #254064
        BW
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          @bw
          Posted by blowlamp on 03/09/2016 12:39:55:

          I linked to this router on the previous page of this thread with no responses, but I do see it as another way forward.

           
          Martin.

          Martin,

          That thing is amazing.

          Would it be possible to safely cut aluminium with it, holding it freehand ?

          Bill

          Edited By Neil Wyatt on 04/09/2016 20:08:45

          #254147
          blowlamp
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            @blowlamp
            Posted by Bill Wood 2 on 04/09/2016 14:05:00:

            Posted by blowlamp on 03/09/2016 12:39:55:

            I linked to this router on the previous page of this thread with no responses, but I do see it as another way forward.

             
            Martin.

            Martin,

            That thing is amazing.

            Would it be possible to safely cut aluminium with it, holding it freehand ?

            Bill

             

            Bill.

            It's a fantastic piece of kit, isn't it? I can see it changing the lives of joiners and cabinet-makers for ever! smiley

            It certainly appears to be capable of making parts many times larger than most CNC routers are able to produce, which I find surprising in itself.

            I read that it could cut aluminium, but obviously with limitations. I don't see working from a sheet being a problem.

             

            Martin.

            Edited By Neil Wyatt on 04/09/2016 20:04:55

            #254151
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              Depends on the size of the CNC router, its mostly the size of the sheet material that is the limiting factor

              Edited By Neil Wyatt on 04/09/2016 20:05:12

              #254154
              Neil Wyatt
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                @neilwyatt

                Moved here as its a useful discussion.

                #15120
                Neil Wyatt
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                  @neilwyatt
                  #254158
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133

                    The concept looks great; but I have a couple of concerns:

                    1. [quote] Limited Quantity. Shipping 2017. Pre-Order Now : $100 off with each referral [/quote] … I never feel comfortable with this sort of thing.
                    2. Routers produce quite a lot of vibration [and dust] … I hope that the electronics assembly is up to it.

                    MichaelG.

                    #254180
                    Ed Duffner
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                      @edduffner79357
                      Posted by JasonB on 04/09/2016 20:00:53:

                      Depends on the size of the CNC router, its mostly the size of the sheet material that is the limiting factor

                      Edited By Neil Wyatt on 04/09/2016 20:05:12

                      and how far the operator can reach across the work safely.

                      Ed.

                      #254184
                      JasonB
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                        @jasonb

                        The other couple of things I have not been able to see on some of the videos are

                        1. How does it know how deep you can go on a single pass, sort of comes back to teh CNC thing where the operator already needs to know depth of cut etc.

                        2. No mention of climb cutting which can give quite a kick on a handheld router so again operator would need to know some basic router do's and don'ts.

                        3. if working on an edge and the machine starts to wobble a bit which being more top heavy it is likely to do this will alter the positioning cameras distance from the tape strips so will it then give a wrong position.

                        Does look to have its uses, I think I may tend to use it to cut a template to run the usual router or spindle moulder fence up against more than direct onto the work but depends on job in hand.

                        #254340
                        BW
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                          @bw

                          Would there be any benefit in winding the work past a machine that was held stationary on a post of some sort ?

                          The tool would then cut a profile along that section and there wouldnt be any "grabbing" induced mistakes.

                          I dont know how normal cnc works – is that a normal part of a cnc machines capabilities or do they work following a different sort of logic.

                          Point me to a good introductory web page or book please ?

                          Bill

                          #254345
                          JasonB
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                            @jasonb

                            You would have to have control of the work being fed into the router for there to be minimal risk of a snatch, think of it like resting a bit of metal plate onto your mill table and just pushing that into the spinning cutter by hand.

                            Woodworking machines that use the principal of hand feeding into a spinning cutter like a spindle moulder or mounted router make use of fences, lead in pins, templates and what is known as limiters do stop the blades taking too large a bite.

                            You also need twice the space to feed say an 8×4 sheet under a stationary cutter as you do to move the cutter over the top of a stationary sheet.

                            #254587
                            Neil Wyatt
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                              @neilwyatt

                              Slightly off topic, I've just got out my big router to take ~1/8" off two doors and tidy up a slab of worktop to go on a fridge.

                              I feel guilt looking at my not insignificant cutter collection (a couple of dozen?) and feel a bit guilty about not using them. I think I've only used three.

                              Not sure I'm ready to subscribe to Routing International or New Router for ideas, but if anyone fancies writing a series on how to make a nice traditional toolbox using a router I'm interested

                              Neil

                              #254603
                              JasonB
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                                @jasonb

                                I could but readers may not want to spend the £500 to get a dovetail jig the same as minesmile p

                                Mill is good for finger joints which would do.

                                #254636
                                Neil Wyatt
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                                  @neilwyatt
                                  Posted by JasonB on 07/09/2016 16:26:49:

                                  I could but readers may not want to spend the £500 to get a dovetail jig the same as minesmile p

                                  EEK!

                                  #254641
                                  John Stevenson 1
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                                    @johnstevenson1

                                    I can laser engrave fake dovetails !
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                                    No?

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                                    Ok I’ll get me coat

                                    #254651
                                    Bazyle
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                                      @bazyle

                                      Perhaps making a dovetail jig is an appropriate MEW topic. Even for those curmudgeons who think ME has to be only metal and only steam helping woodworkers by making or repairing tools for them is a potential way to make friends and further the overall reputation of metal men in sheds.

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