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  • #621757
    James Mackay
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      @jamesmackay16906

      Hello,

      I’m new to this forum and hope someone can offer advice on an issue I have with my Clarke CL300 lathe. The circuit fuse always blows when mains power is switched on. I have check everything and replaced the speed control switch/potentiometer, but the issue is still present.

      I have traced a problem with the old FC250 control board in that there seems to be a short between connection “AC4”(live) and connection “5” (this is when nothing else is connected to the board.

      Is this something that I can fix (replace relay?) or do I need to order a new board from Arceurotrade?

      Any advice welcome.

      Regards

      James

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      #20850
      James Mackay
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        @jamesmackay16906

        FC250 Control Board issues?

        #621768
        John Rudd
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          @johnrudd16576

          Disconnect all the wiring from the board…

          Then:

          Test with your DVM on Ohms range between pins 5 and 3, should read open circuit.

          Test with your DVM on Ohms range between pins 6 and 7, should read open circuit

           

          What do you have between pins 6 and 4? 

           

           

          Edited By John Rudd on 19/11/2022 11:17:29

          #621773
          James Mackay
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            @jamesmackay16906

            Hi John,

            Many thanks for the quick feedback.

            I have checked (nothing else connected):

            Pins 5 and 3 – is open circuit

            Pins 6 and 7 – is open circuit

            Pins 6 and 4 is also open circuit

            I have closed circuit between:

            Pins 4 and 5

            Pins 4 and 7

            and

            Pins 5 and 7

            James

            #621774
            John Rudd
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              @johnrudd16576

              The usual culprits on these boards are the Mosfets going short circuit….and taking out the opto couplers…

               

              Pins 4 and 7 go straight to the bridge rectifier, if you measure between these two terminals, are they reading a low resistance? (check with the probes in both directions….ie, Red to 7 and Black to 4, then swap Red to 4 and Black to 7)

              Edited By John Rudd on 19/11/2022 11:40:55

              #621777
              James Mackay
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                @jamesmackay16906

                Ok, measuring between pins 4 and 7:

                About 13.0 settling down (about 5 seconds) to 00.5 Ohms in both directions. (DVM set to "200" Ohms setting)

                #621902
                James Mackay
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                  @jamesmackay16906

                  Should I just replace the board, or is there any scope for repairing it?

                  Any advice is welcome.

                  Regards

                  James

                  #621912
                  John Rudd
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                    @johnrudd16576

                    James the boards can be repaired ( I do repair these and other boards for lathes/mills but am a bit busy at the moment) ….If you have the requisite skills and have access to parts…

                    Might be better for you to buy a replacement from Arceurotrade….

                    #621916
                    James Mackay
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                      @jamesmackay16906

                      John, many thanks for the valued advice. I'll purchase a new board.

                      Regards

                      James

                      #621934
                      Nick Clarke 3
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                        @nickclarke3
                        Posted by John Rudd on 20/11/2022 14:22:59:

                        James the boards can be repaired ( I do repair these and other boards for lathes/mills but am a bit busy at the moment) ….If you have the requisite skills and have access to parts…

                        Might be better for you to buy a replacement from Arceurotrade….

                        The Clarke CL300 is sold by Machine Mart, not ArcEurotrade and you will need to check with them if their boards are the same – otherwise order from Machine Mart.

                        There ae several different controller boards I believe and they may not all be interchangeable.

                        #621939
                        Anthony Knights
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                          @anthonyknights16741

                          If, like me you have sufficient electrical skills, you can do as I did, the last time my CL300 control board stopped working. I got one of these and adapted the PCB to replace the existing control board.screenshot 2022-11-20 at 17-08-41 1x 220v 500w knob motor speed controller dc 0-220v adjustable lathe control(gray) amazon.co.uk business industry & science.jpg

                          Admittedly, it's not as sophisticated as the proper control board. There is no speed feedback for example, but it ran my lathe for several months before I splashed out on a 3phase motor and inverter package because I had some spare cash at the time. It still works and is in the workshop, ready to replace the controller on the mini mill-drill, if that should decide to stop working.

                          #621956
                          John Rudd
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                            @johnrudd16576

                            Posted by Ketan Swali on 16/06/2020 11:18:08:

                             

                            It is a SIEG C2 lathe, spare parts for which can be found on this page.

                            Ketan at ARC.

                             

                            https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machine-Spares/C2-Mini-Lathe-Spares/C2-182A-Control-Board-FC250J

                            Edited By John Rudd on 20/11/2022 20:06:52

                            #621971
                            James Mackay
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                              @jamesmackay16906

                              That’s the part I have ordered, certainly looks identical in the image. Will report back if I have any issues.

                              Cheers!

                              James

                              #622339
                              James Mackay
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                                @jamesmackay16906

                                Happy to report lathe up and running again with new board.

                                Thanks All.

                                Regards,

                                James

                                #622352
                                John Rudd
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                                  @johnrudd16576

                                  James, good to hear that its fixed…but it would be better if you knew what caused the failure in the first instance?

                                  Usual failures are down to the motor…

                                  hopefully your machine will continue to perform faultlessly…

                                  Let me know if I can help further..

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