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    Hannes Paling
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      @hannespaling38305
      I would like to chemically blacken bras parts of a feed pump, does anybody have a idea how this could be done?.  I noticed on a very old camera the lens parts are black not painted, which led me thinking that there must be a process,  any advise would be appreciated, thanks, Hannes
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      Hannes Paling
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        @hannespaling38305

        Need advice

        #60439
        Dougie Swan
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          @dougieswan43463
          Check the mags / internet for Koolblack or if you have a gunshop locally ask for cold blueing solution
          Dougie
          #60441
          Keith Long
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            @keithlong89920

            Another source for blackening products is:- C+L Finescale (www.finescale.org.uk). I’ve used their brass blackening compounds and the process is very easy. I used it on CZ121 bar.

            The resulting colour may be a bit “dark chocolate” rather than jet black, but the finish has so far survived 6 months outdoors, half a meter above a swimming pool in the Canary Islands and facing south. OK it hasn’t seen frost and snow (nor will) but it looks as good now as when it was first done, and yes I did use the protective costing recommended by C+L.

            Keith

            #60452
            Keith Long
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              @keithlong89920

              Oops – that should read “…. protective COATING recommended by C+L”

              No connection – just a satisfied customer.

              Keith

              #60454
              GoCreate
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                @gocreate
                Hi
                look for:
                Carrs metal black (used to be available at model shops, don’t know if it still is)
                &
                Birchwood Casey Gun Blue
                 
                Nigel
                #60490
                Mike
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                  @mike89748
                  I may be proved wrong, but I think all of the gun blueing and blacking products work only on steel.
                  The only brass blacking formula I can find in a search through my gun books is as follows, from an old American publication:
                  Potassium Sulfide      1 oz
                  Ammonium Hydrosulphide 2 1/4 oz
                  1 US gallon of water.
                  Must be mixed in a glass container.
                   
                  Don’t know whether these chemicals are available.
                   
                  #60494
                  DMB
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                    @dmb
                    search internet-you never know!
                    #60495
                    DMB
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                      @dmb
                      There are more than one ME/MEW advertiser who frequently advertise blacking chemicals but unfortunately, cannot name them off top of head.
                      #60497
                      Terryd
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                        @terryd72465
                        Hi,
                         
                        Both Carrs and Casey Birchwood produce blacking products for brass,  Carrs at least uses selenium as the blacking agent,
                         
                        regards
                         
                        Terry
                        #60499
                        Mike
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                          @mike89748
                          Happy to stand corrected. From experience with using gun blacking products on steel, complete de-greasing and absolute cleanliness are absolute essentials.
                          #60704
                          Sub Mandrel
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                            @submandrel
                            I’ve used Jenolite Koldblak ina tube, selenium containing. ignore the instructions and use a small brush to coat and ocassionally agitate the part. It blacks steel and will black brass but not as quickly. I finished off the tube using it to dull the brass chain I had to use for my crane and it worked slowly but OK.
                             
                            Neil
                            #60720
                            Geoff Theasby
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                              @geofftheasby
                              GLR Distributors sells blacking compounds.   They advertise in ME and MEW.
                               
                              Regards
                              Geoff Theasby
                              #60982
                              Hannes Paling
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                                @hannespaling38305
                                Thanks guys for the advice, much apreciated, I seem to have located the right stuff in my country,  South Africa. Have not tried it yet but the sample I was shown looked very prommising.
                                 
                                Hannes
                                 
                                 
                                #183503
                                Chris Pattison 1
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                                  @chrispattison1

                                  My trusty 1944 edition of Henley's 20th Century Formulas advises as follows:

                                  1 Dissolve in 1,000 parts Ammonia, 45 parts natural Malachite. After thoroughly cleaning the article, put into mixture and gradually warm until the desired depth of colour is achieved. OR

                                  2 Add a saturated solution of Calcium Carbonate to a saturated Copper Sulphate solution until the precipitate has almost dissolved. Immerse the brass part in the solution and heat the solution. Repeat until the brass turns dark. Afterwards seal with varnish.

                                  Hope this helps.

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