Cheap and safe machine worklight

[TerrydParticipant @terryd72465]

Hi All,

These lamps look a good solution, but I already have some clip on goose neck adjustabe halogen lamps from Homebase at £5.99 a go. Good lamps with transformer as they use 12v JC-G4 bulbs. I bought some low cost led equivalents for them but it flickers a bit, the transformer probably needs smoothing will investigate when I get time.

Regards

Terry

[Michael Cox 1Participant @michaelcox1]

Ikea also do a clip on version of the Janso light. I use one of them on my lathe and it just attaches to the chipguard at the back of the lathe. See:

**LINK**

The clip on version is also price at £10.

Mike

[PekkaNFParticipant @pekkanf]

Bought exactly one of these Ikea jönsö or whatever clip on lamps and just to chek it out I clipped it on office table. It went off after like 10 minutes and I returned in on the shop. I don't like much sweedish chinese stuff. Someone else might have a better luck with their products, but I really hate visitting their shops.

Pekka

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

IKEA are having a sale and the LED clamp type lights and the heavy base LED lights are now £7.00

Previoulsy £10 +£5 postage

I have one of these that i put on a magnetic base and they are good.

Clive

Edited By Clive Hartland on 09/07/2013 21:12:05

[John HaineParticipant @johnhaine32865]

Be careful with some of the ikea led replacement "bulbs" as the drive electronics are not well smoothed. The one I use in my bedside light gives a pronounced strobe effect which could be dangerous on moving machinery. The Jansjo ones though are fine, they have an integral led and seem well smoothed.

[OuBallieParticipant @ouballie]

Well, the heavy base ones seem to be out of stock, and the only ones on Internet order are the floor standing jobbies.

For the life of me I can find neither hide nor hair of the Guest login, so registered, for all the good that has done me

BAH to Ikea!

Geoff – Letting off steam, and headache not helping much either.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

A very belated response re high useage (short life) of halogen bulbs in worklights.

My ETR BL12-24 (Warco BH600 / Chester Craftsman lookalike) used these 24volt 50W bulbs at a pretty alarming rate. And NO ONE seems to stock them in East Anglia! In view of the heat generated, I thought that improved cooling might help solve the problem.

Removed the "reflector" and filed two slots about 8mm wide and 8 – 10mm deep diametrically opposite each other.

Result?

Can't remember when I last changed a bulb. (And I have spares, having bought ten, before modding the "reflector&quot That probably means that this one will fail the next time that it is switched on!

Try it, it might improve matters!

Howard

[SmudgeParticipant @smudge]

I brought two for my milling machine, am fitting one each side they will be great and no shadow effect

Smudge

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

Has anyone tried the little Rolson LED torches that pop up in Shell and Morrisons for about £3?

Neil

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Neil,

Not specifically the Rolson ones … but very similar, under different brand names.

They are great for supplementary lighting.

I note that B&Q currently has a rubberised plastic bodied version for £2 … complete with 3x AAA cells.

[Saw them in store, but they are not on the website]

MichaelG.

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Edit: corrected the cell size.

 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 10/11/2013 21:08:16

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

Neil,
Do you mean the black rubber covered ones with switch on the back end?
John

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

Posted by Howard Lewis on 10/11/2013 16:22:28:

Removed the "reflector" and filed two slots about 8mm wide and 8 – 10mm deep diametrically opposite each other.

Interesting – some years back when I worked at Motorola, I did some research and life testing on filament bulbs. I forget the precise details but the life of the bulb fell inversely with something like the 5th or 6th power of the filament temperature. Obviously this didn't fall significantly in your case or the brightness would have been visibly different but with that sensitivity to temperature it makes sense that even a small reduction in the temperature could have a significant beneficial effect on life.

Eventually the filament evaporates(?) enough that you will see a failure but I know what you mean – the cost of bulb replacement probably outweighs the cost of electricity (and fuel and postage…)

Merry

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

Hi John,

No, the ones I'm thinking of are about 3" long, aluminium and contain a number of white LEDs.

neil

[Daniel SchmidtParticipant @danielschmidt54957]

I love its long and flexible neck. It's really handy. You got a good deal!

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

As this thread has come back to life, I'll mention that a month or two ago I bought four GU10 LED bulbs from an EBAY seller for about £10. I chose cool white of about 4W. My wife hated them, and said tehy were much less bright so I put the 35W standard bulbs back in.

As is the way of these things, two of the 35 watters went together and I replaced them with LED ones. It became apparent that they are actually much brighter in terms of illuminating the room, they just don't have the concentrated bright narrow beam of the halogen bulbs.

As the halogens blow we are now up to four LEDs again and everyone now prefers the quality for the light, which seems better suited to a kitchen.

Because of the low heat from these bulbs they would be ideal in the workshop.

When the bulbs in our bedroom start to fail I shall get dimmable warm white LEDs to replace them.

Final thought – halogen GU10's seem to last a lot longer when run off a dimmer, but conventional bulbs seem to suffer when used with one.

Neil

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Stub Mandrel on 15/01/2014 21:15:07:

Final thought – halogen GU10's seem to last a lot longer when run off a dimmer

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Neil,

That may well be true, but I seem to recall that Halogen bulbs need to be run hot, to maintain the "halogen cycle" [or whatever it's called], whereby evaporated Tungsten gets re-deposited on the filament, instead of blackening the quartz envelope. … It would be interesting to check some of your dimmed halogen bulbs.

MichaelG.

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Edit: … Amazing, I was right !

Edit: … More info here.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 15/01/2014 22:58:57

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 15/01/2014 23:02:51

[David ColwillParticipant @davidcolwill19261]

I got some12v 4w mr16 led bulbs from ultraleds. I fitted one into the gooseneck light on the mill (had to take the switch out because it is a bit longer and fouled it) it is very bright and draws less than half an amp. They are £8.00 each but worth it in my opinion.

David

[Anonymous]

Dunno if these are going to be any good but Lidl have a clip on GU10 LED spot for £3.99 on offer Moday 27th Jan, going to get the wife to call in and hopefully get a couple to try them out at that price.

**LINK**

[Les Jones 1Participant @lesjones1]

Hi Mick,
I bought a couple of these a few years ago when they were supplied with halogen bulbs.The gooseneck is stronger than the Ikea lights. I used them modified at first to take 20 W MR16 bulbs which I later replaced with LED's The 1.3 W bulbs supplied may not be bright enough. I have recently bought some 5 W GU10 LED bulbs from some of the larger "Home Bargain " shops for about £4.50 (Ormskirk & Warrington Birchwood.) They use 24 type 5050 LED's and give a nice wide beam. So far they seem to be reliable. (In the past I have bought some similar ones on Ebay but they all failed within a few weeks.)

Les.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Mick,

As Les has indicated, these may be worth buying for the gooseneck alone

But [at the risk of stating the obvious] … this year's model has GU10 fitting, and so there will be Mains Voltage on the unprotected lampholder. Therefore; as supplied, I don't think it can qualify as a "safe machine worklight".

By all means buy them for the useful components, but please don't consider them workshop-safe just because the light source is LED.

MichaelG.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 23/01/2014 09:21:07

[Peter Wood 5Participant @peterwood5]

Mick

I also bought a couple of these when they were on offer a couple of years ago and I think they are excellent. I also use the IKEA lights and find the gooseneck far to limp – especially near to the vibration of my mill.

The only problem I have encountered is that they are very hot and I managed to melt one of the rubber grips on my mill when the light got too close. If the new ones are fitted with LED's then I will cerainly buy another pair.

Peter

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