Can Anyone Name this Engine?

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

Yesterday I took a load of rubbish to the tip. I always keep an eye open for any scrap worth rescuing, and it was a vintage trip – a 2′ rule, a few hand tools and a vintage trowel for the gardener in the family

 

But I also picked up this petrol engine! Let’s call it a 12″ scale model, its only about 16″ tall.

It’s a four stroke with a flywheel magneto and a vane governor. The spark lead is cut short but the mag still works.

 

The flyweel nut had stripped the thread on the end of the crankshaft and the flywheel was (just) held on by a 6mm self tapper! Luckily the taper was still OK I’ve replaced this with an 8mm high tensile bolt through a 1/4″ thick disc into the end of the shaft.

 

It needs a cowl over the flywheel fan, a plug and a petrol tank (plus a fair bit of TLC) but should look fun on a small trolley!

 

But does anyone know what kind of engine it is?

 

Thanks in anticipation!

 

Neil

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

[Steve GarnettParticipant @stevegarnett62550]

I don’t know what make of engine it is, I’m afraid, but I could have a go at naming it for you…

 

How about calling it Justin, because you rescued it justin time! 

 

(Actually, a lot of the engines you find of that sort have often come from small portable generators, and that might be a fruitful place to investigate further)

 

Edited By Steve Garnett on 19/04/2010 22:44:50

[Les Jones 1Participant @lesjones1]

Hi Neil,

                 I think the engine may be from a “Suffolk Colt” lawnmower. Next time I have a look in the garden shed I will have a closer look to see if it is the same as the engine on my lawnmower. I have just had a look at the manual and it looks very similar. I will scan the picture of  the engine in the morning and put it on another reply.

Les. 

[Les Jones 1Participant @lesjones1]

Hi Neil,

               Here is the picture of the Suffolk Colt engine.

 

 

 If you would like a higher resolution picture send me a message on this forums mail system with a normal email address so I can attach the photo.

Les

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

 

My father used to repair lawn mowers, and this looks a pretty typical mower engine.

 

You’re lucky, at our local tip they will not let you take anything away.

I’ve seen lots of stuff which is very useable, but the answer is always “we are not allowed to let people take stuff out”.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited By V8Eng on 20/04/2010 17:43:34

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

Les,

 

Thanks  – that looks like it. Shame it isn’t a JAP or a Villiers, but i guess they’d have a name plate on. It has got a Zenith type13A  carb! That exploded view will come in really handy.

 

V8,

 

 the answer is not to ask at our tip. People put ‘useful’ things to one side, the staff appear to get first look and no-one ‘notices’ if they move in the wrong direction. I’ve also got two 4″ vices, one a well used Record No.3, the other a bigger, cheaper one in nearly new condition.

 

Mad really, re-use is much better than recycle and I could cry for some of the stuff you see in skips – every poor kid in the UK could have a computer if there was a ‘rescue scheme’.

 

At least ebay and the like mean some stuff stays in circulation, but not cheap low-value things 

 

Neil

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, it looks a lot like a Briggs & Stratton engine I once had on my cement mixer. You should be able to find a number on it somewhere, then if you go onto http://www.briggsandstratton.com and then click on customer support at the top and then on the engines icon and then there are links to manuals and downloads for illistrated parts etc. Just pop the number into the search box and if it is one of thiers it should come up with the imfo you need. Hope this is of help regards Nick.

[Steve GarnettParticipant @stevegarnett62550]

Posted by Nicholas Farr on 20/04/2010 21:50:31:

Hi, it looks a lot like a Briggs & Stratton engine I once had on my cement mixer.

 It certainly doesn’t look like a Colt engine – the arrangement of head bolts is different, for a start…

[KWILParticipant @kwil]

If the tip will not let you collect useful items, try a little paper persuasion.

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

Posted by Steve Garnett on 21/04/2010 00:19:53:

Posted by Nicholas Farr on 20/04/2010 21:50:31:

Hi, it looks a lot like a Briggs & Stratton engine I once had on my cement mixer.

 It certainly doesn’t look like a Colt engine – the arrangement of head bolts is different, for a start…

 I think it is. Les sent me  a set of scans of the full drawings. Almost every other part is identical but it seems there is an old 78cc cast iron block version (mine) and two larger (98cc and a bit bigger) with an alloy block. Oddly some parts are still available for the early one buit not the other.

 

I’ve welded up a cowling from some storage heater – my first bit of arc-weld fabrication, rather than patching over rust. A few minutes on the bench grinder and a double dose of P38 and it looks, well, like a rusty old but restored original. Now I’m having a go at hand pin-striping it…

 

Paint stripper has brought the carb up a treat. A Zenith 13 TCA. All sorts of holes and the cutout contact painted over, its amazing if it worked like that! Found two asbestos gaskets too

 

Two questions for Les, if you’d be so kind – can you give me a rough idea of the governor flap spring – on mine it’s been replaced by a bit of brass which will defeat the governor action? Also, can you let me know the spark plug type?

 

Many thanks

 

Neil

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