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  • #13444
    Carl Walker
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      @carlwalker

      My attempt to build a hand shaper, based on the desogn by F T Leightwood

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      #398961
      Carl Walker
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        @carlwalker

        Hello all,

        I've been reading a lot about shapers recently, and it re-kindled my on and off desire to own one for myself. I don't have room for a normal size powered version, so a hand operated one is the option I am going for. I remembered reading an article in the Best of Model Engineer Volume 3, a reprint from June 9, 1949, entitled "A hand bench shaper" by F T Leightwood.

        I had dismissed this article when I first read it, as being unsuitable due to the materials needed (6" x 5" x 1/2" steel angle), techniques (welding), and equipment needed to build (The author used a full sized shaper owned by a friend for some of the machining).

        However, recently I have been rethinking, and I wondered if it would be possible – or reasonable – to build it using aluminium and/or steel plate, screwing or bolting parts together instead of welding, etc.

        So I decided to build a mock-up using plywood and MDF, screwed and glued together, with M8 threaded rod for the slide controls. It is coming along nicely, and has proved the concept that it would be possible to make one of these shapers by built-up methods. I've not finished the mock-up yet, but have made the main components, and will be finishing it off over the next week or so, before starting to build one for real. Making the mock-up version has shown me a few things, one being helping visualise how to make and assemble the shaper, another being just how small this shaper is, considering it has around a 6" ram travel!

        As soon as I figure out how to add pictures, I'll upload some pictures of what I have achieved so far

        Cheers

        Ricky Walker

        edit: Sorry, thread title should be "build a.". not "build as "

        Edited By Ricky Walker on 06/03/2019 14:47:43

        #398964
        John Hinkley
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          @johnhinkley26699

          Google "Gingery shaper" – it'll save you hours of woodwork, if you insist on making your own. Or just buy a Perfecto or Adept one.  Picture of my Perfecto (motorised) below – it wasn't very expensive:

          Right side view

          John

           

          Edited By John Hinkley on 06/03/2019 14:56:23

          #398971
          dcosta
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            @dcosta

            Hello Ricky,

            I started building a shaper based on Gingery's book, with modifications, but I have not figured it out yet.
            You can eventually collect some information from the photos that you will find **HERE** and / or from the little film that I made and that you will find **HERE** in the following URL:

            URL:
            1: https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/albums/member_album.asp?a=8270
            2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qimqVphwS0c
            Also see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdbNWoySo0 (from Rick Sparber who shared with me some knowledge and experience during the construction of my shaper).

            Regards
            Dias Costa

            #398975
            Carl Walker
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              @carlwalker

              Hi John,

              I have the set of Gingery books, and have got as far as building a furnace, not used it in anger yet, I am hoping to do so this summer Building the Gingery shaper is one of the options I looked at, and I may still do that – I'll probably want a powered shaper at some point

              I've managed to get the pictures uploaded into an album, so here they are, hopefully:

              assembly1.jpg

              First picturre showing the thing assembled.

              assembly2.jpg

              From a different angle, showing the ram more clearly.

              parts1.jpg

              The parts separated, clockwise from top left: Ram (not complete), worktable – still needs holes drilling on side, worktable slide, and main base.

              The ram still needs the head and clapper box making, and I haven't started on the slide screws yet. Also, I still have to make the operating arm and linkages. Then I have to start again doing it all in metal

              Making this version in wood has really helped me in working out any design changes I want to make on the metal version, and it looks cool too! First step I'll be ordering some 1/2" thick alloy for the main base plates. I have decided to make this from a mixture of aluminium and steel – steel where the dovetail ways are involved, alloy for most of the rest of it.

              The machine tools I will be using are a Warco mini lathe, and a Clarke CMD10 micro mill/drill. I'll post pictures as my build progresses. And who knows, we may end up with a working shaper at the end of it all !

              Ricky

              #398976
              Carl Walker
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                @carlwalker

                Hi Dias,

                I have already been looking at your posts regarding the Gingery Shaper (As I said, I've been reading a lot about shapers just lately, LOL), excellent work!

                Cheers

                Ricky Walker

                #398995
                John Olsen
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                  @johnolsen79199

                  Good to see that there are some shapers being made, too many have gone to scrap. The Gingery book are a good resource even if you don't need to do the whole thing from scratch. There are plenty of good ideas in them about how to end up with an accurate machine even if you lack a larger machine to do the job on. I like the idea of building a mock up in wood first, I did this sort of thing a lot when building my steam launch. The entire interior layout and cabin design was first built with scrap material like cardboard and cover sheets from MDF at the hardware suppliers. It is a good cheap way of letting you visualise the whole job.

                  John

                  #399024
                  Wout Moerman 1
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                    @woutmoerman1

                    Do you know this plan?

                    **LINK**

                    Doesn't need a lot of machining.

                    #399106
                    Carl Walker
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                      @carlwalker
                      Posted by Wout Moerman 1 on 06/03/2019 22:13:11:

                      Do you know this plan?

                      **LINK**

                      Doesn't need a lot of machining.

                      Yes, I was considering building this one, until I remembered the FT Leightwood design i had read, and dug out the relevant article.

                      I am pretty much decided now on building a modified F T Leightwood design, as i seems so compact, and the machining procedures have less problems than any of the other designs. I just have to decide whether to build it using metric or imperial materials – I will be using metric fasteners.

                      I am already thinking about how I would convert this design to a powered model, and my first idea is that a countershaft, mounted slightly above and behind the machine could hold a bull wheel and linkage to the ram.This countershaft would then allow me to add an auto feed mechanism for the worktable and a flywheel with a crank handle, which could in turn be driven by a motor using a belt drive. But first things first, I have to get a working shaper built

                      Ricky Walker

                      #399109
                      Carl Walker
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                        @carlwalker

                        I have bought and downloaded the Acto 6 hand shaper plans from the Australian website machineryplans.com. Very impressive set of drawings, however, looks like it needs a fully equipped workshop to build this design. Firstly there is a lot of welding involved, and secondly, the components need a fully equipped machine shop to make, such as dovetail slide ways at 40cm long. Worth looking through to see what ideas are useable on my shaper, but not a design I can build as it is.

                        Ricky Walker

                        #399461
                        Carl Walker
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                          @carlwalker

                          Today I made the cross feed screw for the worktable on my shaper mock up. Tomorrow I'll be travelling from Hull to Dartford to collect the hand operated shaper I won on eBay I;ll still be building this design though, as it is smaller than the one I have bought.

                          Here is a pic of the one I have bought:

                          s-2.jpg

                          Should be interesting, and will help me to build the one I have started

                          #399467
                          V8Eng
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                            @v8eng
                            Posted by Ricky Walker on 09/03/2019 21:11:11:

                            Today I made the cross feed screw for the worktable on my shaper mock up. Tomorrow I'll be travelling from Hull to Dartford to collect the hand operated shaper I won on eBay I;ll still be building this design though, as it is smaller than the one I have bought.

                            Here is a pic of the one I have bought:

                            s-2.jpg

                            Should be interesting, and will help me to build the one I have started

                             

                             

                            I wondered who had won that, pretty good price too I reckon.

                            Edited By V8Eng on 09/03/2019 22:00:56

                            #399470
                            Paul Lousick
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                              @paullousick59116

                              Have you seen this design for a shaper ?

                              6 inch shaper 1.jpg

                              6 inch shaper 2.jpg

                              6 inch shaper 3.jpg

                              6 inch shaper 4.jpg

                              #399671
                              Carl Walker
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                                @carlwalker

                                Hi Paul Lousick,

                                I'd not seen that one before, now it is part of my collection of plans

                                Cheers

                                Ricly

                                #399674
                                Carl Walker
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                                  @carlwalker

                                  Really pleased with the one I bought, no maker's name on it, and it doesn't match any of the ones I looked at on the shapers archive site i found (lathes .co.uk, or something like that) so I'll be trying to find out what make it is over the next few weeks

                                  I just couldn't believe how much traffic there was around the M25, especially as it is Sunday! Got the shaper home now, I just need some more space to magically appear, so I have somewhere to keep it

                                  Ricky

                                  Edited By Ricky Walker on 11/03/2019 01:36:06

                                  #403269
                                  Steve King 5
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                                    @steveking5
                                    Posted by Wout Moerman 1 on 06/03/2019 22:13:11:

                                    Do you know this plan?

                                    **LINK**

                                    Doesn't need a lot of machining.

                                    Thanks for that link.

                                    #403272
                                    Steve King 5
                                    Participant
                                      @steveking5

                                      Reading this post I noticed your travelling from Hull. I live in Hull, if you need things making I have a lathe and soon if all goes to plan a Alba 1a shaper by the end of the month. Send me a PM if you need out.

                                      Thanks

                                      Steve

                                      #403786
                                      Howard Lewis
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                                        @howardlewis46836

                                        Have hankered after a Shaper for some time, This week, I acquired an Adept No.2

                                        The next problem is going to be finding space on the totally cluttered bench to mount it. Work for it is bound to follow soon. The first task will have to be to check it over and then the pitch of the Leadscrews, to allow graduating the Handwheel dials.

                                        With the cross feed on the opposite side from the handle, devising a ratchet feed is not going to be easy.

                                        Thinking cap on!

                                        Howard

                                        #403789
                                        IanT
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                                          @iant

                                          There have a been a number of ideas published in this area Howard.

                                          You could look at something like David Williams' version ( ME March 5th 1953 ) or perhaps you could think along more 'modern' lines and use a stepper motor to do the needful – which (as Joseph Noci has shown recently) can provide some interesting options.

                                          Regards,

                                          IanT

                                          PS If you PM me – I will dig out the Williams article for you.

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