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  • #52984
    Mike White
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      @mikewhite
      Hi, I’m rebuilding an old Boxford lathe and want to paint it in it’s original colour (blue) but so far having trouble locating the right paint. I’ve attached photo of lathe showing what I think is the right colour, and would appreciate any help with this. Thanks.
       
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      #16562
      Mike White
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        @mikewhite

        Paint colour

        #52990
        Terryd
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          @terryd72465
          Hi Mike,
           
          I simply asked Boxford and got the answer for my lathe of 1950’s vintage as
           
          British standard 381C – 692 ‘Smoke Grey’ (see here)
           
          This is rather a bluey grey that looks more blue than grey in certain lights and in Photographs.  I think that your original colour is the same from looking at the base but couldn’t swear to it.
           
          I spoke to the guys at Boxford and they tell me that the paint they used was a cellulose one after filling the castings with body filler.  I have had the lathe for quite a while now and am hoping to refurbish it sometime in the future but need to get some paint mixed at a local dealer but it could be expensive depending on their minimum order.
           
          Here is a picture of my lathe (and it really is the original colour!):  Mail me if you need more information.
           
          Regards
           
          Terry
           

          Edited By Terryd on 29/06/2010 04:53:06

          Edited By Terryd on 29/06/2010 04:56:28

          #52991
          Terryd
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            @terryd72465
            This is just a test of Flickr to see if it works, please bear with me.
             
            Boxford lathe (from Flickr)
             

            #81522
            Adrian Mack
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              @adrianmack91494
              I have just acquired a Boxford similar to yours, not sure of exact age or model, will have to research a bit. Before I locate it in my workshop I would like to clean it up and refurbish a bit. I came across your post by a Google search for Boxford paint colour and have obviously now subscribed to this forum. I have just ordered 500 ml of enamel machine paint using the colout code suggested, will see what it turns out like. Was an eBay purchase so I think the price was quite reasonable, I am hoping the paint type will be compatible with the original, time will tell
               
              In terms of refurbishment of head bearings, gear train and slides etc, I wondered if you could guide me to some relevant information that you may have already referenced in this or other forums.
               
              Thanks.
              #81532
              Barry Q
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                @barryq
                Hi,
                 
                Terryd is spot on. Your first contact ought to be Boxford. I’ve found them very helpful. Just give them the lathe type and importantly its serial number as they did change their colour scheme over the years. Their contact details can be found at: http://www.boxford.co.uk/boxford/docs/about/about.htm
                 
                I hope that works for you – don’t do this very often. I did find out my colour number from Boxford but since lost it as l didn’t think a colour refurbish would make it turn any better so have left it looking a bit rough! In other words I was keen to just get turning. When I bought it the headstock sounded like a bag of old nails so more important then cosmetic work was a total strip down and clean.
                 
                Adrian, somewhere I have the details on the headstock bearings so if you need to go down that road I could dig out the info. Just let me know if you need it, it’ll take a bit of digging out – I’m not the world’s best at filing information. prefer the other type of filing! The work on the headstock was worth every expletive and bruised fingers. The lathe runs very quietly now – a job well worth doing.
                 
                BarryQ
                 
                 
                #81544
                ,
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                  @nousername29627
                  Join the Boxford lathe users group on Yahoo. A mine of free information with manuals, parts lists, test certificates and LOADS more.
                  Phil
                  #81547
                  Terryd
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                    @terryd72465
                    Posted by Adrian Mack on 07/01/2012 16:46:49:

                    I have just acquired a Boxford similar to yours, not sure of exact age or model, will have to research a bit. Before I locate it in my workshop I would like to clean it up and refurbish a bit. I came across your post by a Google search for Boxford paint colour and have obviously now subscribed to this forum. I have just ordered 500 ml of enamel machine paint using the colout code suggested, will see what it turns out like. Was an eBay purchase so I think the price was quite reasonable, I am hoping the paint type will be compatible with the original, time will tell
                     
                    In terms of refurbishment of head bearings, gear train and slides etc, I wondered if you could guide me to some relevant information that you may have already referenced in this or other forums.
                     
                    Thanks.
                     
                     
                    Hi Adrian,
                     
                    You should join the Boxford users group on Yahoo, there is lots of advice there. However I have a lot of information that might help so just send a private message.
                     
                    Early Boxfords were painted Smoke Grey BS 381 692. Companies such as Johnstone’s Paints (normal caveat) can make it up for you at little relative cost. You need to look up the serial number stamped on the RH end of the bed to confirm the manufacture date, Look up here
                     
                    Best Regards,
                     
                    Terry
                    #81548
                    Adrian Mack
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                      @adrianmack91494
                      Thank you both!
                       
                      I guess I should spend a bit of time now going over my Boxford to determine its specification and real condition, no doubt I will a few more questions along the way then.
                      It’s great to see such a wealth of information on this forum and on the yahoo user group.
                       
                      Thanks again
                      Adrian
                      #81549
                      Terryd
                      Participant
                        @terryd72465
                        Hi Adrian,
                         
                        I should have said welcome to our little band of intrepid supporters and please forgive our individual foibles. We are like a family that like to fall out occasionally, but have great respect for every contributing member.
                         
                        The Yahoo Boxford group is here. Enjoy, but come back here for some controversial but well meaning back biting , occasional contradiction, and great advice. Despite the shortcomings of the forum technology we are a real community. It’s the best forum I belong to in many ways if a little frustrating at times.  Members just keep returning.
                         
                        Best regards,
                         
                        Terry

                        Edited By Terryd on 07/01/2012 22:23:10

                        #81552
                        Adrian Mack
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                          @adrianmack91494
                          Posted by Terryd on 07/01/2012 22:11:21:

                          Posted by Adrian Mack on 07/01/2012 16:46:49:

                          I have just acquired a Boxford similar to yours, not sure of exact age or model, will have to research a bit. Before I locate it in my workshop I would like to clean it up and refurbish a bit. I came across your post by a Google search for Boxford paint colour and have obviously now subscribed to this forum. I have just ordered 500 ml of enamel machine paint using the colout code suggested, will see what it turns out like. Was an eBay purchase so I think the price was quite reasonable, I am hoping the paint type will be compatible with the original, time will tell
                           
                          In terms of refurbishment of head bearings, gear train and slides etc, I wondered if you could guide me to some relevant information that you may have already referenced in this or other forums.
                           
                          Thanks.
                           
                           
                          Hi Adrian,
                           
                          You should join the Boxford users group on Yahoo, there is lots of advice there. However I have a lot of information that might help so just send a private message.
                           
                          Early Boxfords were painted Smoke Grey BS 381 692. Companies such as Johnstone’s Paints (normal caveat) can make it up for you at little relative cost. You need to look up the serial number stamped on the RH end of the bed to confirm the manufacture date, Look up here
                           
                          Best Regards,
                           
                          Terry
                           
                           
                          I just had to got out to the garage and look, here’s what I found:
                           

                          And this is what I’ve got to play with :

                           

                          Happy days

                          #81557
                          Mark Foster 1
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                            @markfoster1
                            Great Lathes runs rings arround a Myford . its a shame they have not caught on over there . Boxford Hercus Southbend all nearly the same . And a V bed .dont shy away from the work !
                            #81776
                            Mike White
                            Participant
                              @mikewhite
                              I would agree with the other comments re the yahoo site. I’m still collecting bits and pieces for the lathe to make life easier. I converted it to thyristor drive, thus giving me variable speeds, and easier than changing belts also fitted an emergency stop. I’ve attached some pics of the lathe as it is at momement.
                               
                              Regards, Mike

                              #81781
                              blowlamp
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                                @blowlamp
                                Bl**dy hell, Mike!
                                 
                                Wooden cabinets? Carpets? Spotlessly clean surfaces?…
                                So where’s the microwave and cooker hood?
                                I’m only jealous
                                 
                                 
                                Martin.
                                #81785
                                Terryd
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                                  @terryd72465
                                  Hi Mike,
                                   
                                  It’s looking very good, My csb which was caught up in a fire is awaiting attention and I’m just repainting a late model CUD but adding a powered cross feed so it really is now a BUD. I’ll add some pictures when I can but I can’t guarantee any wooden doors. Well done so far, I’m jealous too
                                  Best regards
                                  Terry
                                  #81786
                                  Mike White
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                                    @mikewhite
                                    Funny you should mention cooker hood, I re-fitted our kitchen for the “management” and used most of the cabinets and worktops to fit out my workshop, there is a cooker hood with an extract fan in it, I’m sure it will come in handy one day. The reason for the door on the lathe stand is because there is quite a large dent in the front, above the internal shelves of stand (which I could’nt pull out) and the door was a perfect fit. As for a microwave I’m arranging for a meals on wheels delivery service with (you’ve guessed it) the “management”.
                                     
                                    Mike
                                    #81788
                                    Martin W
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                                      @martinw
                                      Hi Mike
                                       
                                      All that bling puts my little workshop to shame but why not recycle especially when you have the bits to hand. If you are going to expand into silver soldering, welding and/or brazing then I can think of a good use you could put that cooker hood to.
                                       
                                      When I am in the workshop I usually get tea and a biscuit between 4 and 4:30 if I have earned enough brownie points . Mind a new kitchen should keep you going in comfort for a while!!
                                       
                                      Looks great and don’t get it too dirty.
                                       
                                      Cheers
                                       
                                      Martin
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