Blue marking out pens for metal

[GreensandsParticipant @greensands]

I am having trouble in finding a source of Berol Toughpoint heavy duty marking out pens suitable for use on metal surfaces. Are they still available?  If not, can anyone prehaps recommend some possible alternatives?

[Martin ConnellyParticipant @martinconnelly55370]

I use Sharpie pens.

Martin C

[Mark EasingwoodParticipant @markeasingwood33578]

These people have all the types of marker pens/crayons/dyechem you could ever wish for.

https://waltersandwalters.co.uk/

Mark.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi Greensands, this one from Amazon maybe suitable.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SureMark-Alpha-Broadtip-marker-single/dp/B00DTPFC06/ref=asc_df_B00DTPFC06/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=534970269796&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8959410629303524904&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045997&hvtargid=pla-1460433065037&psc=1&mcid=f94cf3fee50d345e9b9d0c62795bbda4

Just realized you said blue, the one above is black. Zoro have this pack of six blue Pentel ones for £29.99

https://www.zoro.co.uk/shop/office-supplies-and-packaging/markers/n50xl-marker-chisel-tip-blue-pack-of-6-n50xl-c/p/ZT1552665S?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=pla%2B%7C%2BOffice%20Supplies%20%26%20Packaging&utm_term=ZT1552665S&utm_medium=pla_css_2&targetid=pla-1673978563910&loc_physical_ms=9045997&dev=c&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5fetBhC9ARIsAP1UMgEkvFZhtTvjtLDzbA3K29TGmr-BCJdiXXaSJFQRDpmrl03MVCZHY2kaAjwzEALw_wcB

But they do single ones for £4.29.

Regards Nick.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

If buying Sharpie pens … do be sure to shop-around !

‘Home Bargains’ has previously had them at very low prices.

MichaelG.

[GreensandsParticipant @greensands]

It does seem as if the Berol “Toughpoint” chisel pointed pens which I have been in the habit of using for workshop marking out are no longer available.

[Peter Cook 6Participant @petercook6]

I use BIC Marking 2300 chisel tip pens. 4 assorted colours for £4.79 from Amazon. Work fine on metal. Comes of with IPA and WD40 which is a bit of a pain when using that for cutting Aluminium!

[peak4Participant @peak4]

As a blue layout fluid pen for scribing through the pigment, I use Edding 850 markers, for which you can buy T100 refill ink bottles.
I also use the refill ink to top up plain old felt tip markers for general use.
Don’t use them on dry whiteboards 😊

Many years ago I bought a load of “Stabilo OH Pen 76” from an army surplus store in a variety of colours.
I mainly used them for marking up optic fibres, but they work OK on other surfaces; I’m still using some of them now, and they function well all these years later.
I suspect this is the later equivalent, but not tried them.

Bill

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

What’s wrong with using layout blue? a half pint of it is about £14, but it’ll last for many years (My bottle is 3 decades old and still going stong). Longer than any marker pen…

[Mark Rand]

On Mark Rand Said:

What’s wrong with using layout blue? a half pint of it is about £14, but it’ll last for many years (My bottle is 3 decades old and still going stong). Longer than any marker pen…

I find it terribly messy when trying to write sizes and materials on bar ends for future identification.
A marker pen seems easier.

Bill

[Robin GrahamParticipant @robingraham42208]

Faced with a similar problem I bought a set of empty markers which I filled with Dykem layout fluid. They work really well. I’ve had them about 18 months and I’m still on the first fill – no drying out or nib degradation problems so far.

Robin.

[VicParticipant @vic]

I’ve been using Edding jumbo markers for years. Any with permanent ink should be ok though?

[Paul LousickParticipant @paullousick59116]

Bill. “I find it terribly messy when trying to write sizes and materials on bar ends for future identification.
A marker pen seems easier.”

Liquid paint marker pens are better for labeling parts and will write on most materials, glass, PVC, concrete, timber, brick, steel, tiles, etc. Available from engineering supply and larger hardware stores.

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Letter and number punches are good for marking the grade of materials on the ends of bars.

Any old paint will do for striping down bars or splattering on the ends for easy identification. I use some older Macready’s colours:- Magenta=EN1A, white/brown=EN24T, white=EN16 yellow=EN8 etc. Every steel stock holder had their own colour scheme

[Mark Rand]

On Mark Rand Said:

What’s wrong with using layout blue? a half pint of it is about £14, but it’ll last for many years (My bottle is 3 decades old and still going stong). Longer than any marker pen…

My ancient bottle of “Talbot Blue” dried out completely.

I tried Dykem but was not impressed, it seems to climb out of the bottle like linseed oil does.

I added methylated spirits to the old layout fluid bottle and gave it a shake.

After a week or two it was miraculously working again 🙂

best

Robin

[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

The paint type markers as mentioned by paul are good for marking materials but not for marking out ! Noel.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, I’ve never tried those edding paint markers for marking out, but they are good for marking metals. I have used both a red and black 780 (0.8 mm Tip) ones, for repainting the brass plate on my “Yankee” No. 1005 bench drill, the plate being about 55 mm x 38 mm, with very good success. Before and after photos below.

Regards Nick.

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