Audi recall

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

It was announced on Friday the 23rd of August that the German car maker, Audi is recalling all the current models from all ranges plus the last series as well.

This is an unprecedented move for any car maker to recall the whole of the range especially when the recall has been prompted not by the factory or owners but by other road users who have complained to Audi that non of the indicators work on their products.

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

[Roger Williams 2Participant @rogerwilliams2]

John, I dont know why any manufacturer fits them , because as you say, hardly anyone use the bloody things anymore, including the police.

[John ShepherdParticipant @johnshepherd38883]

John

Just heard that the recall has been extended to all cars made in Germany.

(My Audi was made in Hungary so it is not included)

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Posted by John Stevenson on 24/09/2016 15:30:48:

…………… Friday the 23rd of August …………

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[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by Bandersnatch on 24/09/2016 16:06:18:

Posted by John Stevenson on 24/09/2016 15:30:48:

…………… Friday the 23rd of August …………

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Sorry, still on last years British summer time

[densleighParticipant @densleigh]

I had assumed that all these cars only offered indicators as an expensive optional extra tem after the leather seat packs and the low profile alloys. Consequently the additional cost would make the car prohibitively expensive and hence reduce sales!

Hence only visible and non operative as infill to rest of light clusters.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

I thought there was a fault that linked the cruise control to the parking sensors, forcing the unwilling drivers to get stuck 30 centimetres behind the car in front.

N.

[Andy AshParticipant @andyash24902]

It used to be BMW's but I think the Audi has had "special status" for a while now.

I guess it's a combination of the BMW looking quite flabby these days, and Audi being on a sales drive.

The thing that didn't change was the mindset of the drivers.

Edited By Andy Ash on 24/09/2016 17:20:24

[Gary WoodingParticipant @garywooding25363]

Posted by Andy Ash on 24/09/2016 17:19:53:

I guess it's a combination of the BMW looking quite flabby these days, and Audi being on a sales drive.

The thing that didn't change was the mindset of the drivers.

Sweeping statement, much!

[Andy AshParticipant @andyash24902]

Posted by Gary Wooding on 24/09/2016 17:25:17:

Posted by Andy Ash on 24/09/2016 17:19:53:

I guess it's a combination of the BMW looking quite flabby these days, and Audi being on a sales drive.

The thing that didn't change was the mindset of the drivers.

Sweeping statement, much!

You know, I'm probably wrong.

The only reason I posted was because I have noticed myself, that it always seems to be an Audi, these days.

Indeed I also have a motor car of Germanic origin (not an Audi or a BMW). I know how it can divide opinion. Some will go out of their way to lavish praise, others have actually spat on it!

All I know is that it always seems to be a nearly new Audi in the rear view mirror. I'm sure there must be others, but when I am caused to look and make an assessment, it's always an Audi.

 

Edited By Andy Ash on 24/09/2016 17:42:04

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

LOL

**LINK**

Not so funny if you own one

**LINK**

Funny in some ways as Mitsubishi reckoned that urea was a much better way to go but Japan has always been a bit keener on anti pollution measures. Honda for instance had no interest what so ever in making a diesel engine. Some others too.

John

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[JAParticipant @ja]

I drive an Audi, I use my indicators and don't tailgate. As I see it, it is the drivers of other cars that commit these crimes.

Mind you the car does have a habit of becoming invisible.

JA

[Tony Pratt 1Participant @tonypratt1]

I passed my motorbike test in 1970 & car test in 1971 so you can work out how many years I have been driving. Tailgating has become a national pastime , god knows why? Now joined with mobile phone use at every opportunity whilst driving.

I am sure there are people who are reading this who participate in both activities & can see no problem with either.

My point is you cannot legislate against stupidity.

Tony

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

Posted by Ajohnw on 24/09/2016 18:16:20:

Honda for instance had no interest what so ever in making a diesel engine.

John

So in typical Honda fashion, when the time came they put a dyed-in-the-wool diesel hater in charge of developing their engine and of course it ended up a fine motor. He knew what was wrong with many diesels – noise, refinement, lag etc and made certain he addressed them all. I had one for 3 years and I could see why it was regarded as a benchmark diesel.

Now that Honda have stopped selling Accord-based vehicles in the European market (which is where the highest proportion of diesel cars are sold), they have downsized it from 2.2L to 1.6L to suit their Civic-based vehicles (CRV, HRV etc).

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Subaru seem to have done something really different with diesel on the Forester. I assumed I was buying a turbo charged diesel and probably have but seriously keep meaning to check.

It's really weird I've driven about 1600 miles in it now and have had to use the change gear indicator to get used to what gear I should be in. First time I needed to use an overtaking lane on a hill in Pembrokeshire I was rather disappointed. Then I found out I needed to be in 6th. People often reach what some would see as stupid speeds on these hills as it may be their only chance to pass for some time. It does it easily. It will also very easily reach instant ban speeds but unlike the X Type there really isn't any point in buzzing it in 4th to motor way speed limits. Not in 5th either really. If in a hurry it indicates when to change as well. Figures suggest it's a quicker car than the 2.2 X – Type too. Fuel consumption is noticeable better.

John

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Edited By Ajohnw on 24/09/2016 20:14:38

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

Posted by Ajohnw on 24/09/2016 20:13:09:

I assumed I was buying a turbo charged diesel and probably have but seriously keep meaning to check

No need to check. All diesels are turbocharged these days in the same way that all engines are injected. No other way to get the emissions, specific power and fuel consumption otherwise.

The Subaru engine is also a boxer like their petrol engine. Quite unusual but presumably it allows a relatively straightforward(?) engine substitution. It's only really Europe that does diesel, as US and Japan don't "do" diesel.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

There are plenty of decent Audi drivers, its just the proportion of pig-headed ones is higher. it used to be BMWs and before that it was Mercs.

The problem is largely that they are popular company cars for a certain demographic who happen to be one ring short of an Olympics.

neil

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

Funny you should mention the Olympic rings….
The four ring logo originates from the same country. . (Party) at around the same time.

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by Ajohnw on 24/09/2016 20:13:09:

Subaru seem to have done something really different with diesel on the Forester. I assumed I was buying a turbo charged diesel and probably have but seriously keep meaning to check.

It's really weird I've driven about 1600 miles in it now and have had to use the change gear indicator to get used to what gear I should be in. First time I needed to use an overtaking lane on a hill in Pembrokeshire I was rather disappointed. Then I found out I needed to be in 6th. People often reach what some would see as stupid speeds on these hills as it may be their only chance to pass for some time. It does it easily. It will also very easily reach instant ban speeds but unlike the X Type there really isn't any point in buzzing it in 4th to motor way speed limits. Not in 5th either really. If in a hurry it indicates when to change as well. Figures suggest it's a quicker car than the 2.2 X – Type too. Fuel consumption is noticeable better.

John

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Couple of weeks ago did a mad dash back from Luxembourg up to the Wirral, 600 miles in 11 hours one hit except for 1/2 hours kip on the Chunnel. This in a Peugeot 308 Estate 1.6 and it clocked 62 mpg for the trip.

3 years old and 104K on the clock.

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

Indicators would appear to be an unnecessary accessory on any car driven by a Brit. Nobody seems to understand that the concept was a means of indicating intention not action. If they are used at all, (and that is rare enough) the theory appears to be "I'm signalling, so I can do it right now!" The only intelligence to be gathered from indicators operating on a vehicle in GB is that someone on board is possibly awake!!

rgds

Bill

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Posted by John Stevenson on 24/09/2016 23:09:56:

Posted by Ajohnw on 24/09/2016 20:13:09:

Subaru seem to have done something really different with diesel on the Forester. I assumed I was buying a turbo charged diesel and probably have but seriously keep meaning to check.

It's really weird I've driven about 1600 miles in it now and have had to use the change gear indicator to get used to what gear I should be in. First time I needed to use an overtaking lane on a hill in Pembrokeshire I was rather disappointed. Then I found out I needed to be in 6th. People often reach what some would see as stupid speeds on these hills as it may be their only chance to pass for some time. It does it easily. It will also very easily reach instant ban speeds but unlike the X Type there really isn't any point in buzzing it in 4th to motor way speed limits. Not in 5th either really. If in a hurry it indicates when to change as well. Figures suggest it's a quicker car than the 2.2 X – Type too. Fuel consumption is noticeable better.

John

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Couple of weeks ago did a mad dash back from Luxembourg up to the Wirral, 600 miles in 11 hours one hit except for 1/2 hours kip on the Chunnel. This in a Peugeot 308 Estate 1.6 and it clocked 62 mpg for the trip.

3 years old and 104K on the clock.

150 miles as quick as possible police wise, usual plus 10% and 48 mpg. Another 50 after lunch on mixed roads with 10 miles of country lane like driving 46mpg. Coming back 200 miles and 46 mpg same roads but a nasty for me diversion around Carmarthen which wouldn't have helped. It was dark most of the way so I would have been travelling at a higher speed in places.

I did look at the larger Peugeot estate as I need the space but didn't like several things about it. The turning circle was unbelievable for one and I wasn't at all keen on the interior. That's what caused me to think what an earth am I going to get and suddenly remembered being given a test drive in a Forester a long time ago now while my roller skate suburu was in for a service. Fortunately they are a bit more sedate now. Room wise there is stacks of it inside. A lot smaller over all than say a Shogun but nearly the same cabin space. My son is 6ft 6 tall and he can even sit behind me with ease. I'm 6 3 so that is pretty unusual. The dog looses a couple of inches in the boot that it doesn't need and there is still plenty of room for several large Liddl bags stuffed full. A bit more width is available so that will probably go to the dog so that the bags don't move around. The dog is used to leaning into the bends. Dispite the boot lacking a couple of inches of depth over the X type it was easier to get the week away stuff in due to the extra height along with a quick mod of the old dog cage. No top on it though and she might try to climb out so need to make a new one.

It came with a few extras that I didn't expect. Sunshine roof, headlamp washer and self levelling led head lamps. Interestingly those look to give better lighting than xenon. They steer too but that is a bit of gimmick really and no way could they cope with it's turning circle. That's pretty impressive as well. Steering is nice and neutral and it doesn't have the kamikaze I want go in a straight line feel that some cars such as ford based one tend to have. I suspect it's a real working 4×4 too which I must admit I don't really need but if it drives nicely so what. Japan has been very good at that in the past but the more famous names now are much more Chelsea tractor like.

Best of all new and the same price as a pre registered but I was lucky to get that. It just happened to suit the dealer and they gave me a decent price for the x-type as they thought it would sell quickly.

Oh. The cruise control switching is a bit weird but one push is plus or minus 1mph and it always resets to the same speed and maintains it well. Very useful as speed cameras are always around bend on motor ways where there are trees or something that prevents them from being seen. Also good for average speed checks,

John

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Edited By Ajohnw on 25/09/2016 00:53:14

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

At the start, I thought that John's calendar had gone wrong, and it should have been 1st April!

Agree about the connection between parking sensors and cruise control, but you can't see what make it is.

Or are retro rockets standard fitting these days? (far better than Anti Lock Brakes)

Sometimes you wonder why manufacturers bother to fit those shiny things on each side and inside; very few seem to use them for their apparent purpose.

Rant over!

Howard

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