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  • #756193
    Michael Gilligan
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      @michaelgilligan61133

      The October 2024 issue of The Horological Journal arrived today, and p407 has a brief article about Jim Arnfield’s amazing Inertially-Detached Gravity Escapement.

      Apparently there is a good animation of this on the Instagram channel

      @Vecthor_Animation

      Not being Instagram-inclined, I have not viewed it … but browsing-around, I also found this:

      https://engineezy.com/products/the-arnfield-gravity-escapement

      … which looks like a jolly-fine introduction for those with 3D printers, or just some general curiosity.

      MichaelG.

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      #756211
      Grindstone Cowboy
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        @grindstonecowboy

        Thanks Michael, very interesting – also the other escapements at the bottom of the page too.

        Rob

        #756270
        duncan webster 1
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          @duncanwebster1

          Just googling around I found https://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/about/the-college-clock/ which describes the Dennison gravity escapement. It appears to me that the left hand lever will be lifted by more than the right, and so it gets a lopsided drive. Am I correct or this there some other trickery that I haven’t spotted? In any case, would it matter?

          #756284
          Martin Kyte
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            @martinkyte99762

            Not sure I understand your thinking on that Duncan. Could you explain a little more.

            regards Martin

            #756300
            duncan webster 1
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              @duncanwebster1

              The curved pusher element (the bit that contacts the rotating 3 pin wheel) of the left hand rod is closer to the pivot than the right, so for the same horizontal displacement will be pushed through a larger angle.

              #756302
              Martin Kyte
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                @martinkyte99762

                Yes I see. I think the drop can be controlled by the position of the stop pin each side which would give a way of equalising the energy input. I had the pleasure of winding that clock a few years back. It’s a very interesting machine.

                regards Martin

                #756303
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133

                  Just a quick experiment, to see if that animated GIF will embed here:

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                  IMG_0134

                   

                  … evidently not 🙁

                  MichaelG.

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                  Edit: __ Yet, curiously, the copy in my Gallery appears to work

                  #756305
                  duncan webster 1
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                    @duncanwebster1

                    That makes sense, there would be a tad more clearance ar rest twixt the left hand pusher and it’s pin than the right

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                    #756317
                    Martin Kyte
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                      @martinkyte99762

                      Just had a look at Denison’s comments in Clocks, Watches and Bells and he states that the lifting pins should be no further from the centre than 1/24 the distance from the centre to the pendulum suspension, which indicates he was aware of the issue. However his arrangement omits the stop pins and relies either on adjustable tails or bending the tails of the legs to equalise the beat. He states that great care must be taken to ensure that the leg coming to rest must be at the same instant of the lift of the other.

                      It is maybe useful to recognise that the primary objective in the design is to isolate the impulse from the large variation in drive from the train in tower clocks where the weather acting on the hands causes large variations in force.
                      There have been occasions on the Trinity clock where pigeons perching on the hands have massively altered the rate albeit temporarily despite the gravity escapement.

                      Regards Martin

                      #756709
                      John Haine
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                        @johnhaine32865

                        I have to admit to occasionally using Instagram (for family reasons mainly) but I can’t find any sign of this animation – another case of the BHI being internet-incompetent I think.  Has anyone else had better luck and if so please could they post a link?

                        #756712
                        Martin Kyte
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                          @martinkyte99762

                          Hi John

                          Just to repeat Duncan’s link to the Trinity Clock which has the animation along with a slew of detail.

                          https://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/about/the-college-clock/

                          regards Martin

                          #756741
                          Michael Gilligan
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                            @michaelgilligan61133

                            No objection to that, Martin … But my post was specifically about Jim Arnfield’s masterly development of the concept.

                            MichaelG.

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                            Edit:__ Here is the page into which I chose not to delve deeper:

                            https://www.instagram.com/vecthor_animation/

                             

                             

                            #756744
                            John Haine
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                              @johnhaine32865

                              Thanks Martin, it certainly has the animation but not of the Arnfield escapement!

                              #756746
                              John Haine
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                                @johnhaine32865

                                Thanks Michael, I found that one but it seems to have only watch escapements on it.

                                #756750
                                Michael Gilligan
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                                  @michaelgilligan61133

                                  Sadly, John … it appears to be a ‘communication problem’ in HJ

                                  MichaelG.

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                                  #756756
                                  Michael Gilligan
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                                    @michaelgilligan61133

                                    In the absence of that which was ‘advertised’

                                    https://youtube.com/shorts/jl4gJZ_sx_I?feature=shared

                                    MichaelG.

                                    #756762
                                    John Haine
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                                      @johnhaine32865
                                      #757125
                                      jaCK Hobson
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                                        @jackhobson50760
                                        On Michael Gilligan Said:

                                        I also found this:

                                        https://engineezy.com/products/the-arnfield-gravity-escapement

                                        … which looks like a jolly-fine introduction for those with 3D printers, or just some general curiosity.

                                        MichaelG.

                                        Nice. I’ll try and get one printed for this Saturdays exhibition

                                        South London Branch of the BHI – Time is what prevents everything from happening at once (slbbhi.co.uk)

                                        #757167
                                        John Haine
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                                          @johnhaine32865

                                          …while space stops it happening in the same place…

                                          #758073
                                          John Haine
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                                            @johnhaine32865

                                            Someone from the BHI who is Instagram-savvy provided me with the following link after my plea on the BHI member’s forum.

                                            https://www.instagram.com/p/DAa9P3ItiyV/?hl=en-gb

                                             

                                            #758078
                                            Michael Gilligan
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                                              @michaelgilligan61133

                                              Well done, John !

                                              Thanks

                                              MichaelG.

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