Another scam

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

We had a couple of new (to us) ones recently. A recorder telephone voice, female, well spoken and impeccable grammar (for a change):

Stating that it's a recorded message from barclaycard fraud regarding an overseas payment of £600. If this is a fraudulent transaction then please press '1'

It isn't the voice or quite the format of a genuine barclaycard fraud call – which will always insert the cardholders name. I would speculate that pressing '1' either just costs money or transfers you to someone who then fishes for your card details.

Ignore calls like that or look up and ring the card co fraud line yourself

[JAParticipant @ja]

I am not sure about this one.

I have just received a landline call from BT Messaging Services. The nice computerised lady on the line said they had a message from a mobile number for me and if I wanted to hear it I should press 1. Not keeping mobile numbers in my head I pressed 1 and received a message about The Beach Boys. I hung up.

About 15 minutes later I 1471 the number and found it was 08456 021111. A Goggle search showed it did belong to BT Messaging Services and had been useful for some. However others had been plagued with over 10 such calls a day late into the evening.

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

..and as you discovered you paid for the privilege. There's probably soem scam whereby the originator gets a kick-back for leaving the message with BT to call you or they're spoofing the call-back number.

edit: and i had one today from Ofcom to tell me my internet was being cut off… I didn't bother listening to the end..

 

pgk

Edited By pgk pgk on 22/07/2019 20:16:51

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by JA on 22/07/2019 19:18:54:

I am not sure about this one.

I have just received a landline call from BT Messaging Services. The nice computerised lady on the line said they had a message from a mobile number for me and if I wanted to hear it I should press 1. Not keeping mobile numbers in my head I pressed 1 and received a message about The Beach Boys. I hung up.

About 15 minutes later I 1471 the number and found it was 08456 021111. A Goggle search showed it did belong to BT Messaging Services and had been useful for some. However others had been plagued with over 10 such calls a day late into the evening.

It's crook. The caller is faking the number of a genuine BT service, but that's not who is calling. They've probably taken a pound or two off you: very profitable if a few million people press 1 as they well might.

Phone numbers are like email and IP addresses; with suitable tools they can be changed to whatever the sender wants. They're no more reliable than a return address scribbled on the back of an envelope. Quite misleading because checking with 1471 implies the call is genuine.

I get a lot of emails from myself offering dodgy pharmaceuticals. Actually the emails originate in Vietnam and are some kind of con. I just delete them.

Dave

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

A new one today:

[quote]

Dear custοmer,

With internet security an ever changing landscaρe, ΒT has launched ρreventative measures tο ensure οur custοmers and yοur ρersοnal data is keρt secure with the launch οf ΒT Web Ρrοtect.

ΒT Web ρrοtect is free tο all custοmers. ΒT Web ρrοtect gives yοu advanced οnline security οrοtectiοn fοr individual devices against viruses, scams, sρyware, ρhishing attacks and οther internet threats.

< etc. >

[/quote]

Of course it's not from BT, but the insertion of my eMail address next to 'BT ID' lends 'an air of verisimilitude' [*]

Beware !!

MichaelG.

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[*] no, I'm not a fan of G&S but it is a brilliant line

https://www.gsarchive.net/mikado/webopera/mk208d.html

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 29/07/2019 00:14:06

[TrickyParticipant @tricky]

Michael,

To be clear, BT Web Protect is a real BT product (see here ) but of course it does not mean that your email was actually from BT.

Richard

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Michael G, what language is “verisimilitude”, is it Latin?

Dave W

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Tricky on 29/07/2019 08:35:14:

Michael,

To be clear, BT Web Protect is a real BT product (see here ) but of course it does not mean that your email was actually from BT.

Richard

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Thanks, Richard

Yes … I am aware of that … which is why I warned everyone to beware this spoof

MichaelG.

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Edit: the sender's address displays as

cont67001257@updat.com

and the use of my email address where BT would normally use a partly redacted display of my ID is a good indication that it is fraudulent.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 29/07/2019 09:54:16

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Samsaranda on 29/07/2019 09:16:51:

Michael G, what language is “verisimilitude”, is it Latin?

.

As such; it's an English word, Dave … but it is derived from Latin

Etymology: early 17th century: from Latin verisimilitudo, from verisimilis ‘probable’, from veri (genitive of verus ‘true&rsquo + similis‘like’.

MichaelG.

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Edit: The stupid smiley thing is courtesy of this forum editor.

Here's a link: https://www.etymonline.com/word/verisimilitude

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 29/07/2019 10:01:12

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

Just got one "I'm ringing to check about nuisance calls on your phone"

Yes and you're one of them P*** orf.

Regards Ian.

[Matt HarringtonParticipant @mattharrington87221]

One thing that has worked for me it to answer the phone but not say anything. The 'nuisance' calls seem to click off after 10 seconds. Genuine callers will say something. My 'nuisance' calls have now almost dried up.

[Fowlers FuryParticipant @fowlersfury]

'would recommend a look at the website "Who called me?"

**LINK**

And always worth adding the scammer's number to the website.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Posted by Fowlers Fury on 29/07/2019 10:48:29:

'would recommend a look at the website "Who called me?"

**LINK**

And always worth adding the scammer's number to the website.

Hi, just google the number and you get various options of finding info.

Regards Nick.

[David Standing 1Participant @davidstanding1]

Posted by Dave Halford on 11/07/2019 21:03:09:

Posted by Oxymoron on 11/07/2019 15:56:16:

Roy, mix it with grass cuttings in compost heap. At least that's what I do with shredding. Stops the grass cutting going to slimy mess and ultra secure when paper is composted.

Dave

You wait till some slug empties your bank account.

[mark costello 1Participant @markcostello1]

Wouldn't be very fast tho………..

[Nigel Graham 2Participant @nigelgraham2]

Not very fast no, but the paper's already shredded, breaks down easily when damp, and a lot of printer inks are soluble in water.

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

Sussex Police are handing out notices to stick to a front window. They read:-

WARNING

The residents of this property do not deal with uninvited traders

Please leave and do not return

Failure to do so is a criminal offence under the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008

They are in a mix of black, white and yellow with a row of logos along the bottom ; Sussex Police, Btn & Hove City Council, East and West Sussex County Councils.

Worthing club had a speaker from the police who handed them out.

That's my physical callers "fixed" and the dodgy phone callers on the landline are dealt with by only answering recognised numbers in caller display.

Mobile always switched off but it logs numbers of callers which I only call back if I recognise the number.

Emails, "if in doubt, chuck it out" (delete.)

Any of you who need a notice like above, you can easily knock up something similar on your 'puter.

 

 

Edited By DMB on 29/07/2019 22:03:03

Edited By DMB on 29/07/2019 22:03:41

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

There is an organisation called Actionfraud this is a police organisation for reporting and asking about various types of scam. There is an excellent advice chat system on the homepage (+ phone).

I contacted them after receiving a particularly nasty looking extortionate email, they were already aware of that particular scam and advised where (police dept) to forward the email.

link to the Actionfraud website here.Actionfraud

There is also a system called Neighbourhood Alert (again Police) that can be joined to receive alerts about dodgy goings on in your area.  Link here.Alert 

Edited By V8Eng on 29/07/2019 22:24:28

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Posted by Fowlers Fury on 29/07/2019 10:48:29:

'would recommend a look at the website "Who called me?"

**LINK**

The junk calls that I get invariably spoof the calling number …. often with a local number, sometimes even my own.

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

. Just had a scam phone call, recorded message stated that it was from BT and that due to unusual activity on my number I needed to press1 or my line would be disconnected within 24 hours. Just hung up, recognised it as scam anyway I am not with BT. Took the number off my caller display and out of curiosity rang it, apparently the number is not in use, seems strange as it had just rung me. The number if anyone has caller display is, 01373250841 if it calls you just ignore it.

Dave W

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

0203 numbers seem to be popular for this sort of scam. If you ignore them enough times, they seem to give up, for a time.

If the call is from a Bank, or ISP other than your own, it will be a scam, but even "genuine" sounding or looking messages can be from scammers. Some can be quite amusing, although a waste of time and effort in rushing to the phone.

Both my wife and I have received apparently genuine offers to refund a small sum that we have overpaid to someone. The only thing is that know that we haven't, so they get binned.

If it does start to sound plausible, by asking for me from an apparently real number, I say "hold the line, and I'll fetch him" the phone is then very gently put down, and I wander off to do something else. When I hear the continuous tone, the receiver is replaced.

Reporting these calls to TPS, often reveals that the number is a spoof, being used overseas.

I feel sorry for the vulnerable who are taken in by these scammers (My description starts the same way but uses fewer letters )

Howard

[ChrisHParticipant @chrish]

What ever happened to that nice Nigerian Prince who just wanted someone to help him release some money from a bank account whereupon you were going to be generously rewarded for your help…………????

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

He retired a multi millionaire on the proceeds of his scams, there’s plenty of mugs out there.

Dave W

[RMAParticipant @rma]

I was just reading this and my phone rang…….." This is BT and you're phone and line will be disconnected if you don't press 1"….or words to that effect in a strong English accent. I don't have BT either, but I'm curious as to how it got through my Sky Shield. When I've got half a day, I'll phone Sky and ask them. Needless to say I'd hung up before the message ended.

[Clive SteerParticipant @clivesteer55943]

I can understand that if one is persuaded to initiate a call to a premium number that one could be charged. However I'm not sure I understand how pressing 1 after a bogus introduction call would result in a charge to the receiver of the call unless the phone companies are in cahoots with the call initiators as they have to take your money and pass it to the fraudsters.

Also if the caller number can be so easily spoofed I feel that the phone companies aren't doing enough to protect vulnerable people. If the true address of a sender of an e-mail could be spoofed as easily as it appears the phone caller number can be then we could be in for a whole world of pain.

Clive

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