Another EVRI calamity.

[Brian GParticipant @briang]

The article doesn't say which carrier, but it is nice to know we aren't the only ones.

Brian G

Ah yes, exactly where I wanted my parcel – delivered to somebody else’s foot

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Great little story, Brian … it seems to encapsulate the fundamental truths !

Could even be expanded into a full-blown Pantomime

MichaelG.

[Ron ColvinParticipant @roncolvin83430]

Once drone deliveries get underway, all these problems will be solved, instead of an address, the use of GPS coordinates will allow for deliveries to reach you with pinpoint accuracy, thus you find your packages perched upon your roof.

[bernard towersParticipant @bernardtowers37738]

And full of 12gauge. pellets!

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Had a hermes one cancelled and refunded this week, 18 kilos went awol a month ago

Most stuff gets through, but its a bit like the pony express

Edited By Ady1 on 26/12/2022 00:39:11

[EmgeeParticipant @emgee]

Any members who have lost parcels when using Herms/Evri, especially in the Norfolk area, may like to see a reason for parcels going missing.
Link below goes to an EDP article about a recent court case against an ex Hermes/Evri driver.

**LINK**

Emgee

[Henry BrownParticipant @henrybrown95529]

Posted by Clive India on 24/12/2022 13:12:09:

Posted by Ian Parkin on 23/12/2022 10:22:04:

How does that work then with all houses on a main road having names? I did think that everywhere had a number attached. The postcode narrows it down to about 10 houses on my road but i would hate to be a new driver finding a house without a number ..

There is always another way of solving things – do something yourself.
Presume others in your road have similar problems.
Instead of trying to improve the way the rest of the world operates – make it easier for them.
Why not get together, decide what the numbers should be, and put up signs accordingly.
Then anyone will be able to find you.

It seems even that wouldn't even work for Evri Clive! Midlands Today (BBC local TV news) recently reported that a whole village in the West Mids didn't receive the goods they ordered before Xmas. The response from Evri was very luke warm…

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

I did a lot of delivery type jobs over the years and I noticed that it was either the rich scum or the poor scum who never had names numbers on their doors/location

Ordinary folk getting on with their lives were fine

[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

The local authority will give EVERY house a number which the owner is legally obliged to use. Where there is a gap between houses then notional numbers will be used so that when new houses fill the gap the sequence will be continuous. This is not only for deliveries but also the emergency services. Many times ambulances have trouble finding addresses due to the naming of a house and NOT also using the number. This is a sore point in the village I live in ! Noel.

[SteambuffParticipant @steambuff]

A lot of rural area's do not have street names let alone house numbers. (These have NEVER been given a number)

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

 

On my road (in a village) the housing on one side comprises mainly Victorian era housing with typical numbering such as: 1,2,3 Honeysuckle Villas.

The other side of the road is individual homes on larger plots and all the houses are named.

As far as I am aware there is no overall numbering system in the road at all.

Edited By V8Eng on 08/01/2023 12:31:17

[Brian GParticipant @briang]

My parents' house was renumbered when their road was extended at the '1' end. Amongst the deeds was a document relating to the renumbering, giving a deadline by which time the new number had to be displayed, and stating the penalty due under the town's byelaws if this were not done. If local councils have the power to do this, why don't they?

Brian G

[Stuart Smith 5Participant @stuartsmith5]

Since it seems I started the house name/number issue with a comment I made, I thought I had better add another comment.

To all those who say all houses have numbers – I don’t know where you live but in my experience it is common for houses just to have names, particularly in rural or semi rural areas.

I had a delivery just before Christmas and the delivery driver rang me to check exactly where we were ( my postcode covers 24 houses over about a quarter of a mile – there are no houses on the opposite side of the road). Talking to him about this issue, he said that he normally delivers to north Wales and he said that some rural addresses there don’t even have a road name.

Noel may be correct in saying that local authorities give numbers to new properties, but they don’t do it retrospectively.

Stuart

 

 

Edited By Stuart Smith 5 on 08/01/2023 13:17:32

[Chris Pearson 1Participant @chrispearson1]

When we moved here, 27 years ago, the house had no number. This was a nuisance because it never showed up on the databases without which some firms cannot cope. So we are now no. 1. Next door is no. 17.

Just to add to the confusion, a solicitor recently couldn't accept a water bill (the only one on paper nowadays) as proof of address because the address does not match – the postman always delivers it and I had never noticed. For the water board, we live in a different street entirely. And that street has been renamed, albeit many years ago.

Back to the OP: Evri are pretty hopeless, but I have also seen DPD and UPS drive past and be unable to find the address. There are only 12 houses in the entire street.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Stuart Smith 5 on 08/01/2023 13:16:33:

Since it seems I started the house name/number issue with a comment I made, I thought I had better add another comment.

To all those who say all houses have numbers – I don’t know where you live but in my experience it is common for houses just to have names, particularly in rural or semi rural areas.

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This why the What Three Word Location system was invented, and EVRI understand it.

Apparently not all Brits know where No 1, London is, so it's unwise to expect too much of a delivery man lost in a rural backwater. Living in a house with no number, post code or street name is asking for trouble, unless you own Windsor Castle.

Another alternative is to have stuff delivered to a secure collection point, and pick it up yourself. My daughter uses me for that purpose because a petty thief is nicking stuff from the entrance foyer of her building. Pretty sure it's a resident, but they've not sussed out which one yet.

Dave

[SpurryParticipant @spurry]

We have never had a problem with deliveries by Evri, despite living in a house without a number. Postcode covers only six dwellings though.

Others not quite so lucky.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/23235115.city-evri-delivery-driver-thief-told-pay-back-1k/

[Grindstone CowboyParticipant @grindstonecowboy]

In theory, the combination of postcode and delivery point suffix (DPS) should be enough to identify any property in the country. However, having spent many years working on address-matching for the UK government, I know there's always a small percentage where it does not work as planned – in cases like that, you can't really blame any delivery company for errors.

Rob

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

The other day residents were introducing themselves giving their house name to one of the villagers who looked puzzled. I clarified by saying " Mrs James's". That owner had died fifty maybe sixty years ago. Several more like that here. Recently Joyce's first house sold and the second of her's is up for sale. It will be more difficult when her farmhouse goes on the market as barely a dozen even longer term residents know there is the ruin of a building in that copse.
We also have a problem directing people to the Men's Shed as the postcode covers half a mile of lane. We start by saying 'turn right after the speed camera…" – everyone seems to know where that is.

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Have had problems with deliveries not only from Evri but other carriers as well and the Royal Mail even. We live in a Close called Montfort Close and the road opposite is called Montfort Road. We are always getting mail and parcels for the same number house as ours in Montfort Road and vice versa they get our mail and parcels. Until recently the lady who lived in the same number in Montfort Road would get very grumpy and nasty if she got our deliveries instead of hers, a few years ago I was waiting for 2 ton of ballast to be delivered and saw the lorry going up Montfort Road, I was just in time to stop him dumping the ballast on her drive; problem now partially solved because the wife’s niece now lives in the house with the corresponding number to ours in the road. There shouldn’t be this issue though because the close and the road have totally different postcodes and those delivering are supposed to read the postcodes of where they are to deliver. Our local Evri delivery man knows exactly where we live because of problems he had with the woman who used to live at the same number in the road, she was to put it mildly very unpleasant to him so it’s etched into his memory. Dave W

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by noel shelley on 08/01/2023 11:35:49:

The local authority will give EVERY house a number which the owner is legally obliged to use. […]

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Even if it exists, somewhere … I am totally unaware of my house number !

The local authority, and the utility companies, and Land Registry, ALL refer to it by name.

Can you please point me to the legislation ?

MichaelG.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 08/01/2023 17:02:23

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Bazyle on 08/01/2023 14:21:45:

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We also have a problem directing people to the Men's Shed as the postcode covers half a mile of lane. We start by saying 'turn right after the speed camera…" – everyone seems to know where that is.

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Are you at liberty to disclose the location of that shed, here … if so I will happily provide a what3words ‘address’ for the 3metre square that includes the doorstep.

MichaelG.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

My employer was big enough that it's postal codes directed mail to a central sorting office. Didn't cause a problem with deliveries, but visitors would put the post code into their sat navs and end up hopelessly lost on an industrial estate 20 miles away. To get over the problem we gave visitors the post code of a private home over the road. No-one mistook Bide-a-wee Cottage for the giant main gate over the road.

I live in a road with two names. On the right house numbers refer to the original street name, on the left numbers refer to the second road name, which applied to houses built 20 years later. My house and the one directly opposite have the same number on the same road. It has great humorous effect…

Dave

[Dave Shield 1Participant @daveshield1]

Our house is aprox 250 years old, here long before any one living was born.

No number,no problems with deliveries

Common sense of the people delivering sorts it all out.

Dave

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Evri Stockport raid: Seven held after hundreds of parcels stolen

**LINK**

I bet they've got my widget !

Edited By Ady1 on 10/01/2023 13:54:59

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, I got a note type thing yesterday from the Nectar company, The name on it wasn't mine or anyone else that lives here, and the address started with what I presume is a house name, that I've not seen or heard of anywhere near me, and it goes on to say 662m from, and it quotes my address. Can't really blame the postie I suppose with it having my address and post code on it. Had to go out this morning, so dropped it off at a post office and explained why it shouldn't have come to me.

Regards Nick.

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