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    Ian Skeldon 2
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      #552860
      Ian Skeldon 2
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        @ianskeldon2

        Hi,

        I have a hankering to buy an old British motorbike, BSA, AJS, Triumph etc. The intention is to take it out for short runs on dry days, I would prefer it to be four stroke and it would be nice if I could stick the boss on the back. I have a full MC licence so capacity and cylinder count can be whatever.

        I would definitely want something that has some spares available as I don't think for one minute that I could make dynamos etc should the need arise. I don't wish to sell body parts to fund it, so nothing over 5k.

        What would your recommendation be and why?

        Thank you,

        Ian

        #552863
        Oily Rag
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          @oilyrag

          BSA B50 – unloved but a delight to ride and work on. Last of the line when it comes to British 4 stroke singles. Because they are not fancied you can pick up a decent bike for £3k or so. I've just sold one with 12 miles on from new – 1971 and it was taxed and registered back then but had a genuine delivery mileage on it. Wentfor a little more than £3k though.

          Martin

          #552864
          A Smith
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            @asmith78105

            Triumph Unit 500 twin. Later the better. Excellent spares support from multiple sources. (Somewhat easier to kick over than a B50 – just sayin&#39

            #552866
            Old School
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              @oldschool

              What about a new Indian made old British bike probably no spares required.

              #552870
              Oily Rag
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                @oilyrag
                Posted by A Smith on 06/07/2021 12:14:54:

                Somewhat easier to kick over than a B50 – just sayin'

                Wimp!!

                #552873
                Dave Halford
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                  @davehalford22513
                  Posted by A Smith on 06/07/2021 12:14:54:

                  Triumph Unit 500 twin. Later the better. Excellent spares support from multiple sources. (Somewhat easier to kick over than a B50 – just sayin'

                  Once you learn the Triumph kickstart jump.

                  #552874
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                    #552876
                    Mick B1
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                      @mickb1

                      I'd like a late-50s pre-unit BSA A10 650 like I had from 1971 – 75, with a decent single-seater sidecar.

                      Make sure you get a DA10-series engine – the earlier CA10 series had a thin flange on the barrels base and it was occasionally known to crack. Other engine-construction features were also weaker, but I think the later series resolved all of them.

                      #552877
                      old mart
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                        @oldmart

                        I,m with Old School, one of the 500cc Indian Enfields is worth a look, and has brakes that will actually stop you.

                        #552879
                        Steviegtr
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                          Posted by old mart on 06/07/2021 14:13:55:

                          I,m with Old School, one of the 500cc Indian Enfields is worth a look, and has brakes that will actually stop you.

                          + the later ones have a electric start. Cheap to buy plenty of backup spares. 500 Bullet.

                          Steve.

                          #552902
                          Oily Rag
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                            @oilyrag

                            Must admit that when I was working in India I had a RE Continental GT – nice bike with superb handling with the Harris designed frame and Pirelli Phantom tyres. The new RE 'Contraceptor' twin looks a very nice bike and I have heard good reports on their handling and performance; some criticism about plastic mudguards cracking and wheel spokes (stainless) failing.

                            The RE GT did a respectable 60 MPG, the B50 will do better as it is a considerably lighter bike (I got around 70+ MPG from mine with 'spirited' riding). Possibly the most memorable bike I ever had was a Suzuki RG500 disc valve square 4 cyl configured 2 stroke, it regularly failed to do much more than 20 MPG and on one memorable occasion did less than 15 MPG. It was a real suicide machine with lightening quick acceleration and a handling quality best described as being in the 'laxative' bandwidth. It would get into a vicious 'tank slapper' if you touched cats eyes at anything above 90 mph, to which the only way to get out of was to accelerate more! Exciting bike but, with a weight of 350lbs and in excess of 120BHP it should be. It made the 500 / 750 Kawasaki H1 / H2 triples seem like leisurely touring bikes.

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                            The 1971 B50

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                            The factory B50 racer from 1968 – here shown at Brands Hatch in 1986 Classic Series race, 1st place with Dave Deegans 2nd on a 500 Manx framed Triton.

                            Martin

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                            Steviegtr
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                              Posted by Ian Skeldon 2 on 06/07/2021 11:40:48:

                              Hi,

                              I have a hankering to buy an old British motorbike, BSA, AJS, Triumph etc. The intention is to take it out for short runs on dry days, I would prefer it to be four stroke and it would be nice if I could stick the boss on the back. I have a full MC licence so capacity and cylinder count can be whatever.

                              I would definitely want something that has some spares available as I don't think for one minute that I could make dynamos etc should the need arise. I don't wish to sell body parts to fund it, so nothing over 5k.

                              What would your recommendation be and why?

                              Thank you,

                              Ian

                              Ian, have a look in my albums. There is my old 1959 BSA B33 Clubmans. I also had a Triumph tiger 100S at that time. All sold now. Would i buy again. Only to look at.

                              Steve.

                              Steve.

                              #552910
                              bernard towers
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                                @bernardtowers37738

                                Spares are available for most old brit bikes BSA, Norton,Triumph Velocette and AJS seem the best catered for. A lot of the spares are cottage industry made, there is a lot less cheap foreign parts about now, they have killed themselves off by their reputation. I myself make chronometric internals and have done for 30 years thought it would die off before me but now I'm not so sure. Lockdown passed me by as so many people got round to that bike that had bee in there for 20 plus years. personally i would recommend 12v electrics and electronic ignition.

                                #552911
                                bernard towers
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                                  @bernardtowers37738

                                  Best of luck by the way you can't beat the grin factor.

                                  #552917
                                  Luker
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                                    @luker

                                    Any late 50's twin cylinder. Parts are interchangeable for the most part, kick start easy and have that lovely sound that only a twin can produce.

                                    My Ariel 650 has BSA heads and rockers…

                                    #552925
                                    JA
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                                      Had it for nearly 50 years and still use it. Better and more reliable than the car next to it. The car has long since gone (three strikes and you are out).

                                      JA

                                      Before someone points it out – the original engine is fully built and is under a bench waiting to be fitted (for over 20 years).

                                      Edited By JA on 06/07/2021 17:57:16

                                      #552935
                                      David George 1
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                                        Triumph 500 Daytona was solid and easy to ride. My one was reliable and most parts can be found. Here is a picture of my Dresda Susuki 500 from when I worked at Dresda and raced.

                                        Dresda susuki 500.jpg

                                        David

                                        #552954
                                        colin brannigan
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                                          @colinbrannigan54160

                                          I would love to ride this machine again but at seventy one the body won't let me so I just sit and look at it, but I do have other machines that I can ride and they still bring a big smile to my face,

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                                          #552964
                                          Robin Dufton
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                                            @robindufton85682

                                            I've always liked the look of the Sunbeam S7 Deluxe for the American styling although they're over budget. £5k is a bit tight for a decent classic bike as even Noddy bikes are £2k. I have my well used RGV250 up for sale at the moment for £6k, and mint bikes are over £9k, as classic bikes prices are through the roof at the moment.

                                            #552965
                                            Steviegtr
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                                              @steviegtr
                                              Posted by colin brannigan on 06/07/2021 22:22:26:

                                              I would love to ride this machine again but at seventy one the body won't let me so I just sit and look at it, but I do have other machines that I can ride and they still bring a big smile to my face,

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                                              Wow that is nice. Looks like the Alloy barrel engine too. Swept backs & Goldies. Lovely. Be proud. One comes to Squires cafe just like that sometimes.

                                              Steve.

                                              #553020
                                              John Rutzen
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                                                @johnrutzen76569

                                                Well, I wish I had my BSA DBD34 Goldie which I sold in 1970 for about £250 or the Venom Clubman but these things are like gold dust now! I like Allen Millyard's V Twin Velo. Being model engineers we ought to be able to make something like it.

                                                #553042
                                                Ian Skeldon 2
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                                                  @ianskeldon2

                                                  Gentlemen, thank you very much, seeing the photos and reading your advice and experiences has put a big smile on my face. I will do some further researching but will let you all know what I eventually buy, the 5K budget may have to be a bit flexible but I can't take it with me so what the hell.

                                                  Best wishes,

                                                  Ian

                                                  #553101
                                                  Chris Evans 6
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                                                    @chrisevans6

                                                    Ian , best of luck and enjoy whatever you buy. My advice is to buy a complete motorcycle not one with parts missing especially if you go pre-war.

                                                    #553106
                                                    colin brannigan
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                                                      Ian

                                                      Good advice from Chris, always buy a complete bike even if it's in bits……………..

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                                                      This is the Triton as I bought it, but it was all there

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