A query about steam ports

[Tim StevensParticipant @timstevens64731]

Engine for Brahimny – ME4556 page 435

[Tim StevensParticipant @timstevens64731]

The steam ports in this engine block are shown as three slots, where the valve slides. Each of the outer slots is connected to the cylinder end by three drilled ports within the casting, and I have two questions about this:

1. With three holes instead of a slot does this not increase the friction on the steam (or viscous drag if you like) ? The surface area of the passage is a lot larger than a slot would be.

2. Is this not also going to increase the heat loss to the block, for the same increased surface area reason?

Regards, Tim

edited for spelling

Edited By Tim Stevens on 12/03/2017 14:25:45

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

Viscous drag probably doesn't matter for such short passages, what is important is the pressure lost in accelerating the steam from rest into the ports, then round a 90 (nearly) degree sharp bend, then accelerating again into the drilled holes which have smaller area than the fully open port. How important any of this is depends on the velocity of the steam, which again depends on the piston speed of the engine, which tends to be low at least for model locos. Opening out the holes into rectangular passages would be better, but might not be noticeable, if the pressure drop is already low, reducing it doesn't help much. It can all be worked out, but a bit heavy going for this forum. I keep threatening to do an article for ME, but more interesting things keep on cropping up,like watching paint dry

If you convert say 3 off round holes to one off slot with rounded ends, the area reduces by 24%. Wheher this matters depends on whether the passageway area is significant compared to the total area including piston, cylinder head and a bit of the bore. Steam is going faster in the passageways, so heat transfer will be higher. If using superheated steam, this effect will be much reduced.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

In practical terms it is also far easier to drill 3 holes that try and mill a long angled slot which is why you often see this method used.

In an ideal world we would all be able to buy beutifully cast cylinders with all the passaged cored in for a couple of quid but in reality it costs far more to use cores due to time and also higher losses. As an example on The 6" GMT cylinder block I think Edward George said it take two men a whole day to assemble the moulds and cores but the engine does breath very well but at the price of a very expensive lump of iron

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

A key issue is how the passage area compares to the diameter of the steam and exhaust ports. Although passages that are too small lead to 'wire drawing' passages that are too big increase the amount of 'dead' space added to the clearance above the piston, so there's a sweet spot between too narrow and too large.

Neil.

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