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    Vic
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      #635759
      Vic
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        @vic

        To build a Car.

        #635765
        Andrew Tinsley
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          @andrewtinsley63637

          So that's a new way of building a car? Sounds like more typical Musk b******* to me.

          Andrew

           

          Moderators Edit see comment below.

          Edited By JasonB on 03/03/2023 14:47:15

          #635915
          Vic
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            @vic
            Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 02/03/2023 21:21:47:

            So that's a new way of building a car? Sounds like more typical Musk************ to me.

            Andrew.

            What’s with the profanity? Continue like that and folks will ignore you.
            Secondly Tesla seem to be doing pretty well so far and have impressed a lot of people in the automotive industry:

            **LINK**

            **LINK**

             

            Edited By JasonB on 03/03/2023 14:48:08

            #635923
            Bill Phinn
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              @billphinn90025
              Posted by Vic on 03/03/2023 13:38:10:Tesla seem to be doing pretty well so far

              Though the brand appears to have a few challenges to overcome if it's to retain its market share.

              #635929
              UncouthJ
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                @uncouthj

                This is something Musk doesn't get enough credit for imo. Yes he's a dilettante venture capitalist, but he's also a savant manufacturing engineer. Space X was a pipe dream until he brought the industry out of the 70's production mindset! Now moon bases are genuine probability in even some of the more venerable of our lifetime!

                No argument he's a marmite character, but I'm 100% in the love it camp!

                J

                #635932
                JasonB
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                  @jasonb

                  Yes please keep the profanity off the forum or you will be off too

                  #635933
                  ega
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                    @ega

                    I think that the BS word is vulgar rather than profane (ie blasphemous or obscene).

                    Is mere vulgarity forbidden?

                    #635977
                    Anonymous

                      From the Code of Conduct:

                      "Swearing
                      Can be offensive and also means that some members can't use the site from work.
                      If you really must use swear words please use asterisks."

                      #635998
                      mark costello 1
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                        @markcostello1

                        He has done much to make life better for Us. If He makes a few shillings doing it, more power to Him.

                        #636012
                        Hopper
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                          @hopper

                          Bit of a longwinded way of saying modular assembly. The Yanks were doing it with Liberty ships and then Victory ships in 1941. Pre-fabricated completed sections of the ship were made at remote workshops, trucked to the shipyard and welded in place in one go, instead of being made from the ground up on site as they went. They could build a ship in 42 days. Submarines were built the same way when I worked in the boatyard in the 1990s. Made in sections with all internals completed, then the sections were welded together like so many lengths of very large pipe.

                          It's a good idea and somewhat innovative in the car industry. But there is the usual cloud of Musk hype around it. Grain of salt may be required.

                          Interesting that even with all the automation and thus hardly any labor costs (comparatively) they are still proposing the new Tesla plant for Mexico where labour is cheaper than the USA. Will they never be happy until they get their cars made for free?

                          #636014
                          Paul Kemp
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                            @paulkemp46892
                            Posted by Hopper on 03/03/2023 23:21:25:

                            Bit of a longwinded way of saying modular assembly. The Yanks were doing it with Liberty ships and then Victory ships in 1941. Pre-fabricated completed sections of the ship were made at remote workshops, trucked to the shipyard and welded in place in one go, instead of being made from the ground up on site as they went. They could build a ship in 42 days. Submarines were built the same way when I worked in the boatyard in the 1990s. Made in sections with all internals completed, then the sections were welded together like so many lengths of very large pipe.

                            It's a good idea and somewhat innovative in the car industry. But there is the usual cloud of Musk hype around it. Grain of salt may be required.

                            Interesting that even with all the automation and thus hardly any labor costs (comparatively) they are still proposing the new Tesla plant for Mexico where labour is cheaper than the USA. Will they never be happy until they get their cars made for free?

                            And if they do (get them made for free) will they be giving them away?

                            Paul.

                            #636015
                            Clive Foster
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                              @clivefoster55965

                              Mexico plant could well be due to difficulty of getting appropriately skilled workers in the USA.

                              Probably supply chain issues too. US firms moving manufacture to Mexico has considerably boosted local supply chain and, correspondingly hollowed out the US one.

                              Political issues with getting permission to build factories in the US too.

                              Clive

                              #636112
                              Andrew Tinsley
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                                @andrewtinsley63637

                                My apologies if I caused offence with my use of "Bovine excreta" . I assumed that it was in total common usage. The use of the first and last letters plus filling in with asterisks, always seemed a bit pointless, as everyone knows the meaning of such a representation! However if I have offended then my apologies.

                                As to the content of the OP's video. I just smile, Mr Musk is at least 80 years too late to claim this as a new way of production. Just typical of the man, hype is more important than fact.

                                Regards,

                                Andrew.

                                #636113
                                Andrew Tinsley
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                                  @andrewtinsley63637

                                  My apologies if I caused offence with my use of "Bovine excreta" . I assumed that it was in total common usage. The use of the first and last letters plus filling in with asterisks, always seemed a bit pointless, as everyone knows the meaning of such a representation! However if I have offended then my apologies.

                                  As to the content of the OP's video. I just smile, Mr Musk is at least 80 years too late to claim this as a new way of production. Just typical of the man, hype is more important than fact.

                                  Regards,

                                  Andrew.

                                  #637199
                                  Vic
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                                    @vic
                                    Posted by Hopper on 03/03/2023 23:21:25:

                                    Interesting that even with all the automation and thus hardly any labor costs (comparatively) they are still proposing the new Tesla plant for Mexico where labour is cheaper than the USA. Will they never be happy until they get their cars made for free?

                                    Tesla want to make BEV’s more affordable. The thinking is that the Mexico plant will be making the new sub $25,000 model. Rumour has it that it may have a single piece casting for the chassis to cut costs but reducing the wage bill will no doubt help as well.

                                    #637202
                                    Michael Gilligan
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                                      @michaelgilligan61133
                                      Posted by Vic on 11/03/2023 15:52:48:

                                      Posted by Hopper on 03/03/2023 23:21:25:

                                      Interesting that even with all the automation and thus hardly any labor costs (comparatively) they are still proposing the new Tesla plant for Mexico where labour is cheaper than the USA. Will they never be happy until they get their cars made for free?

                                      Tesla want to make BEV’s more affordable. The thinking is that the Mexico plant will be making the new sub $25,000 model. Rumour has it that it may have a single piece casting for the chassis to cut costs but reducing the wage bill will no doubt help as well.

                                       

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                                      However they end up getting them built, and by whom, I do hope that the recently-reported steering-wheel incidents are not indicative of a worsening approach to Quality Assurance !

                                      MichaelG.

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                                      Credit: Daily Telegraph

                                      Edited By Michael Gilligan on 11/03/2023 16:21:48

                                      #637216
                                      Ady1
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                                        @ady1

                                        If he can bring his spaceships back like they do in Thunderbirds then he's deffo got some engineering kudos

                                        #637242
                                        Michael Gilligan
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                                          @michaelgilligan61133

                                          Apologies for the hi-jack … but this is kinda relevant:

                                          **LINK** https://apple.news/AtKirDX78TOqzQzikNhndag

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                                          The world's first 3D-printed rocket is scheduled to blast off from Florida on Saturday on the maiden flight of an innovative spacecraft billed as being less costly to produce and fly.

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                                          MichaelG.

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                                          Edit: __ I’m struggling to find a non-Apple link to the story

                                          #637255
                                          Vic
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                                            @vic
                                            Posted by Michael Gilligan on 11/03/2023 16:12:23:.

                                            However they end up getting them built, and by whom, I do hope that the recently-reported steering-wheel incidents are not indicative of a worsening approach to Quality Assurance !

                                            Probably not quite as bad as last years Mercedes recall of 1 Million cars over brake problems. wink

                                            **LINK**

                                            Or BMW’s 16,000 EV recall over possible total loss of power.

                                            **LINK**

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