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  • #574151
    JasonB
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      @jasonb

      Having recently enjoyed making the Gamages and Bassett Lowke small marine steam engines the next engine to catch my eye while looking for something else was C W Woodson's "Little Husky" as it was a similar type engine and being a Uniflow would allow me to tick off making one of those too. It also had those tempting words "Requires no Castings" devil

      The original article appeared in Popular Science Magazine in 1944 and can be read here

      There have been a few of these built on the various forums and even Julius has done a version but they all looked a bit heavy and bulky to my eye. So as well as redrawing it in metric I set about putting this little puppy on a diet and adding a few curves and features while I was at it. The main areas of attention are:

      – Entablature and Base. Both made of thinner material and some additional machining to remove excess metal and add some shape particularly to the entablature and I also added some holes so it could be mounted in a hull if needed.

      – Columns. Reduced in number from six to four, smaller diameter and also a bit taller with a tapered profile rather than just straight bar.

      – Bearing Supports. A couple of holes to reduce bulk and separate bronze bearings added

      – Cylinder / Valve chest. Rather than solder two cylinders together I cut this from solid. The valve hole was reamed right through rather than try and ream a blind hole to the end, this also made lapping the valve into the hole easier.

      And this is what I came up with.

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      #3475
      JasonB
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        #574160
        duncan webster 1
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          @duncanwebster1

          stop tempting me, I've already got too many projects on the go. A version with a poppet valve would be neat, rather like the ETW Spartan engine

          #574163
          DiogenesII
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            @diogenesii

            ..looks good – a hot-rod classic is always welcome..

            #574166
            Howard Lewis
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              @howardlewis46836

              Interesting!

              Wonder if it would be within my capabilities, to produce such an engine?

              Howard

              #574169
              Clive Foster
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                @clivefoster55965

                Looks nice Jason.

                Vastly more svelte than the original and much prettier as a result.

                I imagine the blocky original design was primarily to keep construction time and difficulty under control in a world where the target audience wouldn't have access to small milling machines. Just a lathe, bench drill, hand tools and, possibly, a shaper for the seriously advanced folk. Under wartime conditions I imagine the chances of folk with machine shop access slipping a foreigner or "government job" through were somewhat remote.

                Reading further down the link the next article covers a decently simple tailstock tap holder which, judging by recent threads, has a certain topical relevance. I shall steal the idea but enlarge things to fit the tailstock on my Smart & Brown 1024 and utilise one of the salvaged ex-B&D pistol drill chucks that I've fitted to plain 5/8" stalks to use in my tailstock turret.

                The whole magazine is worth a skim read. If only to illustrate how much has changed. Especially in electronics and the dumbing down of what an interested guy & gal in the street can be expected to understand about technology and how things work.

                Clive

                Edited By Clive Foster on 03/12/2021 18:22:44

                #574177
                JasonB
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                  @jasonb

                  Thanks for all the interest

                  Duncan, it should be fairly straightforward to do a poppet valve version, just a smaller dia hole for the valve stem and cut a seat at the top, could change the legs for an "A frame" standard to get the Spartan look or just stay with the 4 legs. That will have to wait as I have my eye on a Stuart "Simplex" as next in the line. If anyone has a Simplex and could share a few basic dimensions that would be most useful.

                  Diagenes, initial test runs show it sounds like a hot rod with a good bark. I had actually intended to have the slash cut exhausts face upwards but a last minute change in how I jigged it for soldering them on meant I did them facing downwards and could not face unsoldering it.

                  Howard, worth giving it a try, even if you stick a bit closer to the original drawings. Really you can do what you like so long as the important dimensions stay the same.

                  Clive, yes I'm sure it was aimed at those with a limited workshop and materials as well as being a practical engine that would run and power something rather than eye candy to spend most of it's time in a display cabinet.

                  I to enjoy looking through these old mags, not just the articles but the adverts too the only problem is I tend to spot potential new projects faster than even I can make themblush

                  #574179
                  JasonB
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                    @jasonb

                    A little more temptation, this would roughly be the poppet valve version which does not need much changing. Not shown is the cam that would need altering to work the other way as the valve now lifts to open the inlet rather than lifting to close.

                    husky poppet.jpg

                    #574200
                    geoff walker 1
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                      @geoffwalker1

                      Very nice Jason, really like your design.

                      Will be your popular 24mm size?

                      Can you explain to me how the exhaust works? Hope that's not a daft question.

                      It's the dynamics that puzzle me.

                      Is there any significance in the shape of the exhaust, twin and being wrapped around the cylinder

                      Would it function just as well with a single exhaust pipe at the front of the cylinder.

                      Cheers geoff

                      #574205
                      JasonB
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                        @jasonb

                        I've kept this one quite close to the original sizes by working with the conversion of 1/16" on the original equals 1.5mm which works out well in most cases giving whole millimetre numbers or #.5mm if a 32nd . This means that the original 3/4" bore comes out at 18mm ( 12sixteenths x 1.5mm).

                        The Uniflow design has the inlet at the top of the cylinder and the exhaust so it is just fully uncovered when the piston reaches BDC meaning the air/steam flows in one direction. So as the valve opens around TDC the piston is pushed down, valve should close just as the exhaust ports start to get uncovered which then lets any still expanding steam out of the cylinder. On the up stroke it is only the momentum stored in the flywheel that moves the piston and that also has to compress any remaining air/steam as the exhaust and valve are closed, probably works better on steam as you will get a little condensing of what was left in the cylinder so less force needed to bring the piston back to TDC.

                        The exhaust could just as easily be two separate stubs sticking out each side of a single at the front provided it did not reduce the area, I have seen images of it with just the bare holes. Really just comes down to how you want it to look and where you want any oily exhaust to go. This was quite likely to find it's way into a boat so out the back seems like a good idea.

                        #574241
                        geoff walker 1
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                          @geoffwalker1

                          Hi Jason,

                          Thanks for the reply, that helps a lot.

                          I found it difficult to see how the exhaust would work efficiently with the piston leading and therefore without a stroke of the piston backing it up, so to speak. But clearly it does and seems to be in some respects a matter of having sufficient surface area to allow the expanding steam to escape.

                          I shall follow this project with interest.

                          I would like to make it but my big problem is I have no silver soldering facility and I assume that will be how the exhaust is attached to the cylinder. Is JBW an option?

                          Final point. The three exhaust holes, could that be an elongated hole cut through the side with a slot drill?

                          Cheers Geoff

                          #574243
                          Niels Abildgaard
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                            @nielsabildgaard33719

                            A little engineering can make it much sweeter running.

                            Make piston and pin as low-mass as You dare.

                            Put a mass on the conrod opposite piston so that piston -pin and conrod balances on the crank hole.

                            Put countermass on crankshaft so that the hole mowing cirkus has center of mass on crank centerline.

                            It sounds complicated but is about half an hour on a CAD system.

                            The engine will be much,much nicer running fast.

                            If there is interest I will make some picture.

                            Offer me a bore (mm please) ,stroke and conrod inter hole distance and I go ballistic.

                            #574246
                            JasonB
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                              @jasonb
                              Posted by Niels Abildgaard on 04/12/2021 15:53:12:

                               

                              If there is interest I will make some picture.

                              Oh for a moment there I thought you were going to say you would make a better running onesmile p

                              It was something I was going to come to in the write up, it certainly wants to jump along the workbench if not clamped down so would benifit from some shaping of the crank web, piston could be shaved a little more too, it is already made from 6082. I have done this on the previous small marine engines to help with smooth running.

                              Bore 18mm, stroke 15mm. Conrod ctrs 39.5mm. Crank 25mm dia x 6mm thick, crank pin 6mm dia x 6.5mm long with 8mm dia x 1.5mm head

                               

                              Edited By JasonB on 04/12/2021 16:38:54

                              #574248
                              JasonB
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                                @jasonb

                                Geoff, yes I should think you will be OK with JBWeld and I did consider it at one time before deciding on silver solder.

                                A slot would be fine, I expect the original was shown with drilled holes as it was the easier option for limited workshop tooling

                                #574263
                                JasonB
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                                  @jasonb

                                  I did not take many photos of this build but as there has been some interest shown by Pm and on other forums I'll add a bit of commentary to what images I do have.

                                  Starting with the base a piece of 5mm plate was milled to the overall size and then the datum located following which the various 3mm holes were drilled.

                                  Followed by milling out some of the unwanted material firstly by doing a few passes 0.2mm inside the line and then a full depth pass to remove the last 0.2mm of material. After this the holes for the bearing blocks and columns were countersunk on the underside.

                                  Two pieces of 6mm thick material were squared up and then drilled & tapped M3, the spiral flute tap makes tapping a quick and easy process as you don't need to keep backing the tap off to break the chips – just let them curl out the top.

                                  It would be possible to just use a couple of CSK screws to hold the bearing blocks on or add a bit of JBWeld to get a fillet for that cast look but I opted to silver solder. Once out of the pickle the bearing holes were line bored , well actually drilled and reamed with an 8mm machine reamer.

                                  I had intended to file the curved top to the bearing caps using a couple of buttons but realised I could do it on the CNC and at just over 60seconds each quicker than I could turn up the buttons. I left the oil holes until the end once the bearings had been Loctited into place drilling both at the same time.

                                  Next up were the columns, after facing four pieces of 8mm stock to the same lengths one end of each was reduced to 7mm dia, drilled and tapped M3 and then a ctr hole drilled for later tailstock support.

                                  The other end was reduced to 6mm and a 3mm spigot formed and threaded M3 then the end of the exposed thread rounded with a file.

                                  It was then just a case of holding by the 3mm section, adding tailstock support and then setting over the topslide to turn the taper. A 2mm dia grooving insert left a nice 1mm radius fillet at each end of the taper to blend into the flanges.

                                  The crank was just a piece of 25mm bar faced off and reamed 6mm then sawn off a bit over length. This was loctited to some 6mm PGMS and once set turned down to the finished 6mm thickness before transferring to the mill for tapping the M4 hole at a throw of 7.5mm. The pin was a simple turning job followed by cutting the saw slot with a slitting saw.

                                  #574267
                                  JasonB
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                                    @jasonb

                                    While I was waiting that half hour I came up with this which may smooth things out. I guess this will be the Ultralite version.

                                    Counterbalanced crank web

                                    Thinned down piston with 1mm thick skirt and crown, slot rather than hole for small end

                                    Drilled out crank and wrist pins

                                    Rounded corners of conrod bosses, a change to 2014 aluminium would get the weight down a bit more

                                    ultra husky.jpg

                                    #574274
                                    Niels Abildgaard
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                                      @nielsabildgaard33719

                                      First picture is the original parts as described by Jason

                                      jasonb origin.jpg

                                      #574275
                                      Niels Abildgaard
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                                        @nielsabildgaard33719

                                        Next picture is balance improved by Niels

                                        jasonb modified.jpg

                                        #574276
                                        Niels Abildgaard
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                                          @nielsabildgaard33719

                                          The conrod has got an extension so that center of mass for piston parts and conrod is at the crank hole?

                                          The crankshaft is then modified so that all moving parts are mass centered on centerline.

                                          Edited By Niels Abildgaard on 04/12/2021 19:43:13

                                          #574366
                                          duncan webster 1
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                                            @duncanwebster1

                                            Nice idea Nils, but what I think you've done is swapped liner vibration for rotational. The conrod/weight assembly is being accelerated/decelerated in a rotary motion, and the only force which can supply this is side force at the piston, reacted by another force at the crankshaft, so the engine assembly sees a twisting vibration. Whether this is better or worse than just balancing half the reciprocating and all the rotating mass would be an interesting experiment.

                                            The only way to fully balance a single cylinder engine is to have 2 counter-rotating weights (used in many modern motorcycles) or to have a second throw to the crank which wags a dead weight up and down (think boxer engine, but only one active cylinder). I read that Triumph (the old one, pre bankruptcy) actually drew something up on these lines

                                            #574371
                                            Niels Abildgaard
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                                              @nielsabildgaard33719
                                              Posted by duncan webster on 05/12/2021 18:47:04:

                                              Nice idea Nils, but what I think you've done is swapped liner vibration for rotational. The conrod/weight assembly is being accelerated/decelerated in a rotary motion, and the only force which can supply this is side force at the piston, reacted by another force at the crankshaft, so the engine assembly sees a twisting vibration. Whether this is better or worse than just balancing half the reciprocating and all the rotating mass would be an interesting experiment.

                                              It is my feeling that trading forces for torques is a good deal,but as you say an experiment will be nice.Then afterward everybody can join with What did I say and that is nice in this troubled times.

                                              #574498
                                              JasonB
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                                                @jasonb

                                                All interesting stuff, I may have a play with the moving bits at some time to see if I can tame it's down a bit but as I have just got some measurements of the next one in the series will probably concentrate on that instead.

                                                I was in two minds as to what to make the cylinder from. Cast iron would have been nice but not so easy to solder the exhaust to it, Bronze and brass would have been easy to solder but it's a bit of a lump and I did not have much suitable in stock (at least that I wanted to cut into) so I ended up going for 230M07 (EN1A) as it's not really any more likely to rust than iron particularly as I'm mostly going to run on air.

                                                So a piece was sliced off a 2" bar with the trusty Femi band saw, faced each end and then mounted on the CNC. The two ctr drilled holes are to make it easier to locate the bores for machining on the manual machines.

                                                While the mill was switched on I also did the entablature. The fit of the cylinder's spigots was very good into the holes and would have been a good press fit but that was a bit tighter than I wanted so a quick adjustment of the tool diameter in F360 and an extra 0.01mm was taken off the bores which gave a firm push fit.

                                                I then held the cylinder in the 4-jaw, clocked the ctr drilled hole true and then drilled and finally bored it out to 18mm

                                                The valve hole was a bit too far off central to make holding in the 4-jaw easy so I used the mill to drill and ream the hole out to 6mm with a machine reamer

                                                To make sure the cylinder cover holes were lined up correctly I screwed the cylinder to it's entablature and with a couple of 10-20-40 blocks between that and the fixed vice jaw was able to hold it true, locate bore and then drill and tap the four M2.5 holes and later the two M1.6 holes to retain the valve cover plate.

                                                An existing mandrel was quickly altered so the cylinder could be held horizontally in the 5C indexer firstly to drill the inlet passage and then the three exhaust holes each side which are at 20deg spacings.

                                                A suitable former was turned from delrin, the 8mm copper tube filled with lead and then bent around the former. I then clamped the "U" shape to a bit of MDF and used the boring head to cut the circular profile so it would slide over the cylinder.

                                                Next the vice was swung round to a pleasing angle and using a long series milling cutter for non-ferrous material both ends were milled to the angle. After this the lead was melted out and the exhaust soldered to the cylinder, I had intended to have the slash cut facing upwards but changed the way I held things for soldering but forgot to turn the pipe up the other way. Still it saved having to paint the inside of the exhaust as it is now just in dark shadow.

                                                After cleaning up the outside the last thing to do was lap the cylinder on a make shift lap turned from a scrap length of thick wall aluminium tube.

                                                #574699
                                                JasonB
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                                                  @jasonb

                                                  The piston was fairly straightforward turning and then over to the mill to drill and ream for the 3mm wrist pin before sawing off from the bar and facing the top.

                                                  The last item I have a photo of is the conrod which was cut from some 1/2" square brass bar on the CNC but I finished the other sid eon the manual machines.

                                                  The only other part of any note is the cam which I also did on the CNC but could quite easily be done with a rotary table. The flywheel, valve and valve follower were all basic turning so I did not take any pictures of them being made.

                                                  After putting it all together I did need to make a little adjustment of the profile of the cam follower to get the valve to stay open for a longer period and up the pressure from my usual less than 10psi the engine was off and running with a good flick of the flywheel. It was then stripped for painting. As you can see there are not that many parts to this one which makes these little engines a nice change from the longer more complex builds.

                                                  And this is what they go together like

                                                  Running on about 30psi (note the balloning silicon tube) which it seemed to need to be able to get the piston back up to TDC. It is quite lively if not clamped down so could probably do with the plain disc crank web being shaped to add some counterbalance and the piston and conrod could also be lightened a bit if needed. 1600rpm Tacho reading if you can wait until the end.

                                                  The next one in the series of these small marine engines is about to start being drawn up. I know some on here poo poo facebook and I don't frequent it that much but within an hour of asking on the right group for some key dimensions I had been provided with them along with several good photos of an original from 1926-28. so should end up with a fairly close reproduction Simplex.

                                                  #574738
                                                  DiogenesII
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                                                    @diogenesii

                                                    Nice to see & hear it running, looks like it might be a fun project to make and experiment with..

                                                    #575050
                                                    duncan webster 1
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                                                      @duncanwebster1

                                                      The bane of uniflow engines exhausting to atmosphere is compression. The following relies on my reading the drawing in the original mag correctly (it's not that clear), but the distance from the top of the exhaust holes to the cover is 0.534" and the distance from the piston to the cover at TDC is 0.058", so there is a volume compression of 9.2, and as the compression index for air is 1.4, an even higher pressure ratio. As the exhaust holes close, the pressure is 15 psia, it will rise to a high figure at TDC, and when the valve opens the pressure will drop as a slug of air is be pushed out of the cylinder back into the feed pipe. It then takes in air at feed pipe pressure for quite a bit of stroke, but you can see why it needs quite a high line pressure to run. uniflow engines exhausting to atmosphere is compression. Uniflow engines either need a very high inlet pressure (as in flash steam hydroplanes), or a very low exhaust pressure (as in mill engines). The Atkinson Uniflow waggon had auxiliary exhaust valves to overcome this. Husky would probably run on lower pressure if the clearance volume were markedly increased

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