A couple of ‘soon to be available in the UK’ lathes that look interesting

[HollowpointParticipant @hollowpoint]

<p style=”text-align: left;”>It’s about time we saw some innovation. I’ve often thought that our lathes and mills could be improved considerably with new tech. I mean they haven’t really changed for the last 100 years!</p>
The electronic leadscrew is an interesting one. If it can be controlled to do thread pitches, then surely it could also be used to cut a set length or diameter. Say you tap in 25mm and it cuts to length and then stops. Press another button and it returns to zero. A sort of middle ground between manual and CNC.

One of the things I am surprised we haven’t seen yet on our machines is bearing linear rails. They are cheap smooth, accurate and replaceable. Dare I say better than dovetails!

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

I don’t see any reason you could not enter a pitch of 0.01mm and a length of 25mm which would effectively give  a fine feed rather than a screw thread, handy for boring blind holes.

This is much like the conversational functions I mentioned in the No handwheels thread. You are just manually entering numbers to control a power feed and setting end points rather than hard stops.

They do similar for mills as they do for the lathe in the No handwheel thread where you have the option of handwheels , jogging, digital handwheel and conversational.

And another half manual / half CNC lathe

 

[John HaineParticipant @johnhaine32865]

What you describe is a CNC lathe with a good set of built-in wizards.  On my CNC Super7 conversion I can usually find a Mach3  wizard that does exactly what I need.  Wabeco certainly have a mill (and lathe?) using linear guides – but I’m not sure they have the rigidity and wear resistance for heavy duty machining.

https://www.wabeco-remscheid.de/frasmaschine-f1410-lf.html

 

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

I would think Linear guides are upto the job of what most of us get upto in our workshops.Take the Syil machines which are epoxy granit and liner rails and upto 12Kw spindles on the medium size X7. High speed adaptive suits them well not the old chugging away with a big cut like your grandad uses.

The latest Tormach 1500 also has Linear rails

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

I’ve got a Clough ES on my lathe, brilliant. Metric and imperial pitches, fine feed, end stops. The only thing I’d like is an LCD display as well as the LED so that it can tell you how to work it in plain English. I don’t use it all that often, and you tend to forget.

[jaCK HobsonParticipant @jackhobson50760]

I quite like the lathe with travelling mill head… on linear rails! I realise such combo machines are usually too much of a compromise… but still I want it.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

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[Hugh Stewart-Smith 1Participant @hughstewart-smith1]

Apologies for bumping up this thread (I was away in India for a while in November – wifey wanted to see the Taj Mahal and I tagged along even though I went there in 1990).

We asked Weiss some time ago if they could upgrade the spindle speed on the VM28 ball screw version from 2250rpm  to 5000rpm or thereabouts, as, yes, it would be preferable for CNC purposes. But not at present was the reply.

However, in a month or two we’ll be able to supply partial and/or complete CNC kits for both our VM25/28 and VM32/35 range of mills.

We will also have the VM32H milling machine which will have a 5000rpm spindle speed suitable for CNC-ing as well as a few with X, Y, and Z axes ball screws already fitted. The  Weiss website version mentions only the x- and y-axes ballscrews but we specify the added Z-axis screw.

These are aboard the Ever-AEON and as I write, the ship is on it’s way in the region of Mauritius due to arrive at Felixstowe around 20th  January.

The CNC-kits will be high spec. e.g. C5 ballscrews, with a detailed manual and support available.

Hugh                                                                                                                                                     Amadeal

[Lee Cooper]

 

On 21 November 2024 at 22:45 Lee Cooper Said:

A couple of machines (one from Amadeal, one from Warco) that look interesting.

AMABL210 E (which is a rebadged Weiss 210E). Interesting feature is that it has an electronic change gear system for threading, so no faffing around with manual gear changes. It sounds like a nice option, and is basically a lathe I’ve already been eyeballing, but with this added feature. My only concern is that the complexity of electronic gear change means more mechanical complexity to potentially go wrong. I guess time will tell. I wouldn’t consider one until some reviews come through – unless anyone has any experience with the Weiss? I don’t know if this is a recent addition to their line.

– WBL210E uses an electronic change gear system, eliminating the trouble of replacing the change gears.
– WBL210E can achieve one -click settings of the threading pitch and processing length and automatically cut the thread.

Also..

Warco 210G. I believe this is also a rebadged Weiss? Not sure. I though this had the same quick-change feature as the lathe above but on second read it’s nothing to do with the thread cutting gears, rather you can change between high and low spindle speed with the turn of a know.

https://www.warco.co.uk/home/303702-d330-pro-lathe.html

Lee,

We’ve already pre-sold all of the initial order of the AMABL210E  before the order has arrived (end January)

We’ll be placing another order for this model before long with an expected arrival in the summer. We’ll hope to have positive feedback in the meantime!

We used to sell the AMA210Vg but discontinued this model. The last sale was December 2015.

Hugh                                                                                                                                 Amadeal

Amadeal

[jaCK Hobson]

On jaCK Hobson Said:

I quite like the lathe with travelling mill head… on linear rails! I realise such combo machines are usually too much of a compromise… but still I want it.

We sold two of our combo lathe/mills recently which went aboard ships – one a luxury heritage yacht which charges £180,000 per week for up to 18 guests and the other on board a ship which is part of s fleet of nine. We’re obviously hoping for more order from the other ships!

Although those had static milling heads. The latest with moving head (AMAMPV290F) is new for us and arriving at the end of January. One is pre-sold to a gentleman who is restoring a 70’s racing Lotus. We have just the one left, so don’t delay Jack otherwise you’ll have to wait until summer!

Hugh                                                                                                                            Amadeal

 

[Hugh Stewart-Smith 1]

On Hugh Stewart-Smith 1 Said:

don’t delay Jack otherwise you’ll have to wait until summer!

Hugh                                                                                                                            Amadeal

 

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