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  • #686277
    Peter Goodchild
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      @petergoodchild34034

      Hi all,

      Is there a precision 550-600mm Try Square, with accuracy to a standard, ideally, not a silly price? I want to use with my metal folder, that has a bending capacity of 500mm.
      Cheers.

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      #686280
      Chris Evans 6
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        @chrisevans6

        For that kind of work I cope with a sub £10 “Framing Square” from Screwfix.

        #686288
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          Even the “Value” type brands are a couple of hundread for that sort of size. You could make your own, I did it at school on a smaller scale and only needs some strips of flat bar rivited together.

          A framing square as Chris suggests is another option if you google “framing square stops” you will get an idea of what can easily be made to give a positive stop like the stock of a trisquare which is easier when using with thin material. These can also be tweaked to get the blade dead square to the stops

          #686291
          DC31k
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            @dc31k

            I have one. It is made to a very good standard by myself.

            It is 600mm on one side, 800mm on another side and  1000mm on the third side.

            I also have a small version that is 600mm on one side, 360mm on one side and 480mm on the third side.

            The medium version would be 600mm on one side, 450mm on one side and 750mm on the third side.

            I think all three cost a total of £27 from Wickes. Saw, tape measure and pencil extra.

            #686303
            Michael Gilligan
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              @michaelgilligan61133

              For minimum cost with maximum accuracy … follow Pythagoras

              Almost any arrangement, from a length of string to as complex as you like

              … sides in the ratio 3:4:5

              MichaelG.

              #686315
              Andy_G
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                @andy_g
                On Chris Evans 6 Said:

                For that kind of work I cope with a sub £10 “Framing Square” from Screwfix.

                Ditto (although I’m not sure it was from Screwfix – acquired many years ago).

                I’ve found it surprisingly accurate.

                #686376
                DC31k
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                  @dc31k
                  On Michael Gilligan Said:

                  … sides in the ratio 3:4:5

                  The OP did ask for one made to a Standard. I guess a Greek standard from 2000 years ago, still current, is as good as any.

                  The 3, 4, 5 ones are really the amateur version. Professionals would use the 5, 12, 13 version as it is more accurate.

                  I believe the NPL uses the 8, 15, 17 one for a National Reference Standard.

                  Joking aside, what is good is that all the above contain a number which is a factor of the 600mm characteristic dimension in the poster’s question but have different footprints to best suit the ergonomics of the situation.

                  #686391
                  JasonB
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                    @jasonb

                    I always thought tri-squares were “L” shaped and Set-squares Triangular

                    As for a Standard if you want one that meets one of the Din Grades then expect to pay

                    #686405
                    Michael Gilligan
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                      @michaelgilligan61133

                      So a tri-square doesn’t have an hypotenuse

                      … Funny language, English !

                      MichaelG.

                      #686417
                      mgnbuk
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                        @mgnbuk

                        Hi Peter,

                        Beta Tools supplies a range of squares including larger sizes – catalogue https://www.beta-tools.com/en/products/measuring-and-marking-tools/squares.html

                        There is a seller on Ebay who has the 600mm flangeless variant for £75 carriage paid – here. 

                        They also have the flanged version, but that is nearly £100 more.

                        No details anywhere of any standard that they are made to conform to, but I doubt Beta Tools would put their name to garbage.

                        Nigel B.

                        #686451
                        Diogenes
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                          @diogenes
                          #686455
                          Peter Goodchild
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                            @petergoodchild34034

                            ok thanks.

                            #686465
                            Nicholas Farr
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                              @nicholasfarr14254

                              Hi, I made a square from an off cut of 6mm steel plate, just cut it in half and welded the two bits together, this was about 27 years ago when I was building my garage, and it’s just a little bit over 1 meter long on each leg, and it is still just as square as it was then, measuring it and by using Pythagoras, makes it no greater than 0.2mm under square.

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                              My Frame square is 910mm by 610mm approximately, and is over fifty years old, used to use it in my old day job, when doing large fabrications, bit rusty now and the measurement marks are a bit hard to see, it has inch measurements on the other side, but is still reasonably square.

                              Frame Square

                              Regards Nick.

                              #686480
                              Bazyle
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                                @bazyle

                                Mine’s bigger than yours. I have a batten knocking around in the garden that has two nails at 10 ft spacing. It was part of a set of 3 that could be pinned together. I think I made it to mark out a shed base I never built. I keep thinking I should take the nails out for safety but never quite get round to it.

                                #686503
                                Mark Easingwood
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                                  @markeasingwood33578
                                  On Michael Gilligan Said:

                                  So a tri-square doesn’t have an hypotenuse

                                  … Funny language, English !

                                  MichaelG.

                                  Us woodworkers use a try square.

                                  Mark.

                                  #686509
                                  Michael Gilligan
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                                    @michaelgilligan61133
                                    On Mark Easingwood Said:
                                    On Michael Gilligan Said:

                                    So a tri-square doesn’t have an hypotenuse

                                    … Funny language, English !

                                    MichaelG.

                                    Us woodworkers use a try square.

                                    Mark.

                                    Despite which … it was Jason [an expert worker in wood] who introduced the term tri-square into this discussion … hence my remark.

                                    MichaelG.

                                    #686514
                                    JasonB
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                                      @jasonb

                                      Ah, but I’m not an expert at spelling so you should not take what I write as read when playing your word games.

                                      Though both are used , Try is more common.

                                       

                                      For clarity a try-square is also L shaped and a set-square triangular.

                                      #686532
                                      DC31k
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                                        @dc31k
                                        On Nicholas Farr Said:

                                        …no greater than 0.2mm under square.

                                        For one piece squares, I guess you know the trick of peening the vertex to adjust the squareness. Rapping on the outside will close the angle; rapping on the inside will open it.

                                        Also, as you know, a square is self-checking so long as you have a straight edge – sit it on the edge and draw a line, flip it over and draw another line. The difference between the lines is twice the error.

                                        #686590
                                        martin haysom
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                                          @martinhaysom48469

                                          everything is made to standard sadly, most to a low one. considering what you are  using it for  a cheepie should do

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