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  • #365653
    SillyOldDuffer
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      @sillyoldduffer
      Posted by Ron Laden on 05/08/2018 09:24:49:

      Our two great grand daughters for whom I am building the loco keep mentioning a Thomas the Tank face on the front and one of them even suggested the loco should be pink…surprise

      Welcome to the cruel world of Model Engineering Ron! We spend several hundred hours producing a superb engineering triumph, only to have faults pointed out, the colour rejected, and Thomas the Tank Engine features requested.

      Bad news: the customer is always right.

      I think to really appreciate Model Engineering, it's essential to have made something yourself. That's why I admire your achievements, well-done!

      Dave

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      #365661
      Ron Laden
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        @ronladen17547

        Thanks guys,

        I was going with British Rail Green with more black and yellow chevrons on the front and at the rear of the cab.

        Pink…? I just cant get my head around that at the moment, I,m hoping it will be forgotten and go away but knowing the great grand daughters it probably wont.

        Ron

        #365666
        Neil Wyatt
        Moderator
          @neilwyatt

          You can't beat wasp stripes!

          Neil

          #365710
          Jeff Dayman
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            @jeffdayman43397

            Hi Ron, the locomotive is looking great. For dealing with the pink idea, how about making two body shells, one green one pink/Thomas face? The green one could be metal or a mix of wood and metal with some detailing. The pink /Thomas face one could be simpler wood construction of course, or even a vacuum formed PC or PETG plastic shell to fit over the green body. Some RC car models use vacformed shells for their painted bodywork.

            By doing quick release fastenings at say 4 points, like spring latches or thumb screws, the locomotive could "change identity" as needed for your great granddaughters. Just food for thought.

            #365723
            Ron Laden
            Participant
              @ronladen17547

              Hi Jeff,

              Why didnt I think of that..? Thats a great idea, a body for the girls and one for me when I want to be a bit more serious about it.

              Thanks Jeff

              Ron

              #366001
              Jeff Dayman
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                @jeffdayman43397

                You're welcome Ron. Good luck with the loco bodies.

                Re your bandsaw tire thread – I've used 1/8" thick neoprene rubber strips for bandsaw tires in the past with success, fastened with contact cement, and with scarfed ends. (angled cuts both pieces). I recommended this method a while ago to Mike Cox on the forum, who had similar tire trouble. He also reported success with the method. Neoprene sheet or strip is commonly available from seal and gasket dealers at reasonable cost.

                #366664
                Ron Laden
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                  @ronladen17547

                  I am about to start building the loco body and as mentioned I am going with a Class 08..ish style body. The 08 is of course a 0-6-0 loco but there was a prototype built as a 0-4-0….wink….well thats my story and I,m sticking to it.

                  I was going with a typical green BR body but I found a few other colours for the 08 and I rather like the grey version in the picture below it is a bit different. I may well go for it when it comes to the painting and finishing stage.

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                  Edited By Ron Laden on 10/08/2018 16:55:07

                  #367996
                  Ron Laden
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                    @ronladen17547

                    Well I,ve made a start on the body, built the basics of the front section. It will be based on a 08 (ish) shunter, I know it looks like a box on wheels, but if you take the detail off an 08 thats what your left with (see picture in previous post).

                    So lots of detail to add, well when I say lots, enough to make it at least look like something realistic.

                    The next stage is to add the rear section/cab, the body so far is a combination of 6mm MDF, pine quarter quadrant and 0.8 mm modelling ply. I,ve added the engine access door panels to each side and also fixed the cab front.

                    Ron

                    p.s. Although its not intended as a scale loco I think I will lose the buffer plates, they just dont look right. 

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                    Edited By Ron Laden on 19/08/2018 10:32:33

                    Edited By Ron Laden on 19/08/2018 10:39:56

                    #368006
                    Ron Laden
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                      @ronladen17547

                      I think better with the buffer plates removed they were for a different body style.

                      The hardware can be added to the front chassis spreader plate.

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                      #368111
                      Paul Kemp
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                        @paulkemp46892

                        Ron,

                        I don't post on here very often although I often read the various threads and get a little frustrated with all the pedantic comments and responses to various questions. I have to say though having followed your project, including getting the shed and buying a lathe very well done. When you consider the other thread on here re model engineering in decline to see someone like yourself come along and just get on with it is a breath of fresh air. More power to you you sir! The hobby needs more Rons! Well done, I think you are doing a cracking job.

                        Paul.

                        #368288
                        Ron Laden
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                          @ronladen17547

                          Thank you Paul,

                          I dont know that I deserve such praise, I just put as many hours in as I can which like many of us never seems enough. I only manage around 20 hours a week as life tends to get in the way.

                          I am part way through building the cab, will add a picture later.

                          Cheers

                          Ron

                          #368305
                          Ron Laden
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                            @ronladen17547

                            I,ve managed to get the bare bones of the cab area together, doors still to make, window frames and trims to do plus make and fit the roof. Still a lot of detail to do but its coming together and most importantly its fun.

                            Ron

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                            #368310
                            Ron Laden
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                              @ronladen17547

                              Placed the body on the chassis, starting to look a bit more shunter like…I think..?

                              Ron

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                              #368604
                              Ron Laden
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                                @ronladen17547

                                Cab roof, doors and window frames added, next job is the front radiator grill and fins.

                                p.s. Forgot to say, Mentioning radiator fins I need to treat myself to a Costa coffee and whilst there sneak away a handful of wooden coffee stirrers….winkdsc06069.jpg

                                Edited By Ron Laden on 23/08/2018 10:17:52

                                #369910
                                Ron Laden
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                                  @ronladen17547

                                  I,ve not had too much workshop time this week but managed to add the radiator front assy, decided to add the wasp stripes at the same time.

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                                  #369989
                                  Neil Wyatt
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                                    @neilwyatt

                                    Looking even better now, Ron.

                                    Neil

                                    #370010
                                    Ron Laden
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                                      @ronladen17547

                                      Thanks Neil,

                                      Fuel tanks, side boxes and vent panels next, its completely make believe of course but if I can get it looking something like a shunter that could have been it will be fine.

                                      It started out as a fun loco to carry our two great grand daughters and there is good news on that front. They were suggesting it had to be pink with a Thomas face..surprise but they have both seen the two tone grey version and it gets their approval. I think I got away with it with the wasp stripes, they thought the yellow and black was "cool"..lol. I cant get away with not having Thomas though but that can now be a clip on for when they visit the track, well thats a small blessing at least.

                                      Ron

                                      Edited By Ron Laden on 02/09/2018 09:34:01

                                      Edited By Ron Laden on 02/09/2018 09:54:44

                                      #371493
                                      Ron Laden
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                                        @ronladen17547

                                        Some more added, fuel tanks and side boxes, cab door panel and handrails, cab roof vent. The vent panels which sit in front of the fuel tanks are next, once these are done thats pretty much the main build of the body finished. Its then surface detail and the chassis needs buffers which I aim to turn from aluminium plus the clevis couplings which I will either buy or make.

                                        Found some 12 volt – 5mm white led,s which come in a small lens housing so I may get those for the front lights, will just need to make the lamp bodies. Also seen a 12 volt classic motorcycle horn (low tone) which I,m thinking could sound about right for a shunter.

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                                        #371495
                                        Journeyman
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                                          @journeyman

                                          Coming along nicely Ron. Still think it should be pink, but if the granddaughters approve, who am I to disagree? I was mildly curious as to how you control it when driving? Controls on or in the rear cab, a flexible lead with a control box or radio control?

                                          Keep up the good work.

                                          John

                                          #371499
                                          Ron Laden
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                                            @ronladen17547

                                            Thanks John, I must admit I was sort of warming to a pink version just for fun and to keep the grand daughters happy but when they liked the grey version with the "cool yellow and black zig zags….lol" I was let off the hook.

                                            Re driving control, I was thinking a control panel mounted in the cab but having said that it wouldnt be difficult to make a plug in control box. I would only need to extend the speed controller cables for the rotary speed pot and the fwd/rev switch, I could also add the horn and light switches. I can see that a control box on an extension would be more comfortable and save leaning forward all the time.

                                            Ron

                                            Edited By Ron Laden on 13/09/2018 10:24:30

                                            #372489
                                            Ron Laden
                                            Participant
                                              @ronladen17547

                                              Still plugging away, fitted the engine door hinges, handrails and the vent panels. Used 1.5mm ali welding rod for the handrails and cable tie ends for the hinges, they are about right size wise and I think they look ok. I think the vent panels on the full size is a grid of small mesh but I havnt found anything yet that fits the bill…any suggestions welcome..? I have slipped in a couple of pieces of 3mm plastazote for now to give some idea.

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                                              Edited By Ron Laden on 20/09/2018 14:58:41

                                              #373530
                                              Ron Laden
                                              Participant
                                                @ronladen17547

                                                Again, not too much workshop time this week but I have added some pipe work to the front plus I have also weathered the front a tad to lose that new look.

                                                Painting is next and I plan to use the method I have used on numerous scratch built R/C aircraft over the years as it works really well.

                                                I have started with a primer coat which will be cut back with 800 paper (dry) then a coat of filler primer, filler primer is excellent for losing small imperfections and can hide a multitude of sins and again it is cut back with 800. Then the first layer of top coat, cut back with 1200 paper (dry) then the final top coat. Finally a coat of acrylic clear satin varnish, I dont use matt for anything that is regularly handled and gloss to me just looks over the top. All the painting is with aerosols (auto paint) and when it comes to top coat colours there is a massive range.

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                                                Edited By Ron Laden on 27/09/2018 16:24:41

                                                #373531
                                                Jon Lawes
                                                Participant
                                                  @jonlawes51698

                                                  That looks excellent so far.

                                                  My personal opinion is that gloss looks too toylike for some things, so satin sounds like a good shout.

                                                  #374055
                                                  Ron Laden
                                                  Participant
                                                    @ronladen17547

                                                    Amazing how buffers transform a chassis

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                                                    #375585
                                                    Ron Laden
                                                    Participant
                                                      @ronladen17547

                                                      Not fifty shades of grey just two, the main painting is finished. A few bits of surface detail to add, weathering and a final top coat of clear satin. Cab to glaze plus correct a wonky window frame, build and fit the cab control panel and finalise the wiring.

                                                      Chassis needs front and rear foot ladders, some areas of detail plus a pair of clevis couplings, with my first mill arriving next week smiley I will be able to produce my own.

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