3 x 5 twin Victorian workshop steam engine restoration

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  • #532977
    Mike Hurley
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      @mikehurley60381

      Appreciate that Jim. Many happy hours of work so far – and quite a few tears at times!

      Take care

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      #533098
      Steve Addy
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        @steveaddy35670

        I got a nickel plating kit from Gateros in Lincoln. I was very pleased with the results and the technical chat I had with them.  Usual disclaimer.   Gateros Plating

         

        Edited By Steve Addy on 10/03/2021 21:50:56

        #533100
        Nigel Graham 2
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          @nigelgraham2

          A fine project!

          #533150
          Mike Hurley
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            @mikehurley60381

            Steve – I succesfully plated the shafts using the info in the video. Proved to be dead easy in fact and quite cheap, Suggest anyone to have a go. Only cost a couple of £ for some pure nickle anodes and white vinegar.

            The important bit is to make sure the object to be plated is very clean and grease free first. Apart from that it's a breeze.

            regards

            #545732
            Mike Hurley
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              @mikehurley60381

              Was just about to start re-assembling everything when I noticed there was a couple of parts I hadn't sorted. There is a capped tube next to exhaust outlet on the each steam chest which I believe to be a manual oiler point (did raise a thread on the forum to see if anyone had any other ideas, but nothing conclusive in the end).

              steam chest oiler 01.jpg

              There was only one of these and it was pretty bent and knackered, so a 2nd needed to be made anyway. Back when I first disassembled everything I measured the original and determined it to be 1/8" BSP (28 tpi), I had some Taps & die so went ahead and started to make one only to find that it didn't fit the casting. After some head scratching I re-measured the OD of the pipe at 0.383" which according to the Zeus data book was correct for 1/8" BSP. As a last resort got the thread gauge out and yes it wasn't standard 28tpi but 26tpi!
              As I could still use the taps and dies I had for the top end of the pipes & cap, the end that screwed into the casting will have to be cut on the lathe. (I know Tracy tools stock 26tpi Whitform T & Ds but seemed unnecessary cost for one off's) anyway, will be an interesting exercise to lathe cut such fine shallow threads.

              Cylinder manual oilers – as mentioned earlier, decided on making replacement manual cylinder oilers in brass. These actually proved quite a challenge having no design to hand, just working from the model photo (as shown in earlier posting). The initial drawing ended up being modified 'on-the-fly' many times as is often the case with bespoke parts, but worked out OK in the end. One of the challenges was to turn an enclosed 'ball' section in the middle of the unit (this being the part of the body where the tapered valve shaft fits. Unsure of the best approach, so I raised a thread on the website and following several useful suggestions I made a form tool which worked well.

              form tool 01.jpg

              A useful exercise that included lathe threading, 'ball' turning as noted earlier, milling a hex section for tightening the unit into the cylinder, cutting a tapered valve assembly etc

              cylinder oilers 01.jpg.

              cylinder oilers 02.jpg

              I also realised that where the original oilers had been broken off the cylinders, part of the boss they would locate onto was uneven. Fortunately, neither had resulted in cracks in the cylinder casting, just a ragged surface which would make it impossible to seal the new oilers properly onto the cylinders and be steam-tight.

              cylinder oilers 03.jpg

              After much deliberation, it was decided to build the bosses up with steel-reinforced epoxy. After on or two attempts this was done. The cylinders were lashed to the mill table with a 1/2" BSW threaded bar in the holes to ensure they were at true verticals, removed these then skimmed the tops to achieve a flat, correctly aligned surface. Worked quite well.

              cylinder oilers 04.jpg

              Once the new oilers were completed it was time to start re-building! It was decided to age most of the brass a little, as it was felt (rightly or wrongly) that very bright brass fittings would be out of place on what was originally a working engine as opposed to an exhibition piece.
              The previously made wooden lagging segments and brass banding were fitted (some adjustment needed here and there as you might expect). The valve chest oiler tubes and cylinder oilers were fitted and much to my surprise everything fitted and nothing got in the way of anything else – amazing!

              cylinder assy 01.jpg

              The baseplate assembly , flywheel & pulley had all been cleaned up and re-painted during the winter. These were back to the original colours (though they do look a bit brighter than reality in the pictures) as far as I could tell from the grubby bits of remnant found under the rust.

              baseplate 01.jpg

              flywheel assy 01.jpg

              So the next phase is to start re-assembling everything (for a second time). Will post again when further on, hopefully by then all back together and even possibly ready for a compressed air test (if I can organise any!)

              #545736
              Steviegtr
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                @steviegtr

                Lovely work Mike.

                Steve.

                #562046
                Mike Hurley
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                  @mikehurley60381

                  Began assembling all the parts, and generally no major problems. The only game changer was when aligning the cylinders to the pistons / cross heads and finally the cranks and main shaft,it became apparent there was an issue with cylinder 2 and the stroke of the piston which was 'bottoming'. From day one,it was known there was a slight difference between the two cylinder castings and I believed that I had allowed for the subtle differences, but obviously I had failed to account for something!
                  In the end, I couldn't adjust the problem out and it was necessary to reposition the conn rod bearings slightly. This required a bit of drastic surgery, but worked out better than expected. After re-fitting and making a few other slight adjustment everything appears to move correctly.
                  The eccentrics and valve gear all fitted without any major problems which was a pleasant surprise. Am now in a position to dry run things to bed in all the bearings. Assuming all is well, I shall be looking to get my hands on a suitable compressed air source and make some suitable fittings for the engine's input ports.
                  I raised a question some time back on the site asking for suggestions on air pressure and volumes required for a basic, limited test of the engine and received lots of useful comments. Will post further following on from this.

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                  #562070
                  Steviegtr
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                    @steviegtr

                    Brilliant work. It looks superb.

                    Steve.

                    #562167
                    Mike Hurley
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                      @mikehurley60381

                      Appreciate that Steve.

                      All the best, Mike

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