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    JA
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      @ja

      The recognised metric replacement for a 4BA screw is a M3.5 x 0.6 screw. I am trying to find if such a mild or stainless steel hex. head screw is available. I have looked at Polly Model Engineering web site and some of the European model engineering suppliers' web sites without success.

      Has anyone knowledge of the availabilty of such screws and nuts?

      JA

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      JA
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        @ja
        #572288
        Chris Gunn
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          @chrisgunn36534
          #572297
          JasonB
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            @jasonb

            I've not come across M3.5 hex head from any of the usual suspects here or abroard. If you don't need many then not to hard to turn down some round bar, thread and then machine the hex.

            #572298
            John Haine
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              @johnhaine32865

              I think JA wanted M3.5 Chris?

              Quite a few suppliers of M3.5 screws come up on Google but hex head don't.

              #572303
              HOWARDT
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                @howardt

                I think you will find them at PTS, Precision Technology Supplies. I got some M2.5 from them, usually use them for all my stainless screws.

                #572307
                Chris Gunn
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                  @chrisgunn36534

                  JH, you are right, I searched for 3.5 hex head, and mistakenly believed Google took that on board, should have looked closer at the results. I thought it was too easy.

                  Chris Gunn

                  #572310
                  speelwerk
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                    @speelwerk

                    Not quite, because it is hex with a slot, but perhaps useable, Niko. **LINK**

                    https://www.ebay.de/itm/265158626286?hash=item3dbcaf8bee:g:YwIAAOSwHd5gnPZY

                    #572314
                    File Handle
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                      @filehandle

                      Why not use 4BA?

                      #572322
                      Martin Connelly
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                        @martinconnelly55370

                        Fix a nut to a piece of stud and clean it up. If you use a machine screw for the stud you can run the nut up to the point where the thread finishes to have as much metal as possible filling the nut.

                        Martin C

                        #572454
                        JA
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                          @ja

                          Many thanks for the replies.

                          The ISO Metric 3.5mm Coarse thread is a standard thread and features in thread tables including the one in Tubal Cain's Model Engineer's Handbook. I know that it is used on some electrical fittings.

                          I asked the question because I am converting the design of a large well known model, with quite a few 4BA screws, to metric. Before going too far I thought it would be wise to check if the metric equivalent was available.

                          2mm, 2.5mm, 3mm and 4mm hex headed scews are readily available but I am going to assume that I will never see a 3.5mm hex headed screw.

                          JA

                          #572455
                          Juddy
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                            @juddy
                            #572456
                            Vic
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                              @vic

                              I’m not sure what size Hexagonal bar (metric/imperial) is available but it shouldn’t prove too time consuming to make your own?

                              #572457
                              Michael Gilligan
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                                @michaelgilligan61133

                                The awful truth appears to be here : **LINK**

                                https://itafasteners.com/products-bolts-hex-head-anchor-bolts.php

                                M3.5 is a standard … but not for bolts sad

                                I agree with Martin; but might be tempted to use hex-socket grub screws as the thread … thus providing optional tightening methods.

                                MichaelG.

                                #572463
                                JasonB
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                                  @jasonb

                                  JA wants hex head not cap head. Though I have used m3.5 cap heads on models I reserve them for the modern aero and ic engines rather than anything period.

                                  When I have made hex head bolts in M3.5 to keep them in keeping with the other model hex heads which are smaller than the usual ISO sizes I mill the hex to 5mm A/F which fits in about right with M3 with it's 4mm hex and M4 with it's 5.5mm hex. For the few I make it is not worth sourceing 5mm hex stock and the spin indexer makes machining quite quick.

                                  No sure what engine martin is making but when doing others in metric I often find the suggested BA size a bit large for example the 2BA ones on the Stuart Voctoria, beam, etc are on the big side so use M4 rather than M5 which would be closer.

                                  Edited By JasonB on 22/11/2021 13:30:52

                                  #572464
                                  peak4
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                                    Posted by Vic on 22/11/2021 12:26:26:

                                    I’m not sure what size Hexagonal bar (metric/imperial) is available but it shouldn’t prove too time consuming to make your own?

                                    M3 hex heads are 5.5mm spanner size, M4 are 7mm
                                    It seems to me that 6mm hex bar would seem an appropriate midway approximation.
                                    4BA AF hex size is 0.249", so not much larger than 6mm.

                                    Both 1/4" and 6mm hex bar are readily available.

                                    Bill

                                    #572469
                                    JasonB
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                                      @jasonb

                                      The model ones tend not to use standard hex, see my comment above and this table Similar to many people using one size smaller BA fixings.

                                      They are also taller so more in keeping with a period engine.

                                      #572471
                                      Michael Gilligan
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                                        @michaelgilligan61133
                                        Posted by JasonB on 22/11/2021 12:53:41:

                                        Martin wants hex head not cap head. […]

                                        .

                                        dont know

                                        Do you mean JA ?

                                        MichaelG.

                                        .

                                        Incidentally … My reference was to Martin Connelly’s suggestion.

                                        #572472
                                        JasonB
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                                          @jasonb

                                          Yes, edited it now.

                                          First part of my reply was to Juddy.

                                          Though grub screws may be a bit limited on length depending on what is needed or if studs are being used for the majority of fixings.

                                          Edited By JasonB on 22/11/2021 13:33:33

                                          #572473
                                          Michael Gilligan
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                                            @michaelgilligan61133

                                            yes

                                            #572490
                                            Vic
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                                              @vic
                                              Posted by peak4 on 22/11/2021 12:54:30:

                                              Posted by Vic on 22/11/2021 12:26:26:

                                              I’m not sure what size Hexagonal bar (metric/imperial) is available but it shouldn’t prove too time consuming to make your own?

                                              M3 hex heads are 5.5mm spanner size, M4 are 7mm
                                              It seems to me that 6mm hex bar would seem an appropriate midway approximation.
                                              4BA AF hex size is 0.249", so not much larger than 6mm.

                                              Both 1/4" and 6mm hex bar are readily available.

                                              Bill

                                              Yes, sounds good Bill.

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