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  • #216694
    Ryan Norton
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      @ryannorton40317

      I have made a start on the cross-heads. Last night I cut out, pickled and squared up a piece of steel.

      Here is the result:

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      I should hopefully machine the groove tonight and make a start on the counter-bored holes for the con-rod small ends. I will machine both together as mirror images and then cut in half and finish off.

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      #216804
      Ryan Norton
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        @ryannorton40317

        Here are some pictures from last nights work. I have previously machined up the guide rod blanks from off-cuts. They still need to be cut to length and the threads machined. These were used to gauge the groove.

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        The guide bars slide very nicely in the grooves. I am happy with the fit.

        The key now is to silver solder the tops without blocking the groove….

        Any advice.

        #219229
        Ryan Norton
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          @ryannorton40317

          My planned December work has not gone entirely according to plan but at least I have made some progress.

          I managed to half machine the right hand steam chest and also took some photos of the progress, as these were missed when I did the left hand one.

          The outline of the final shape was cut on the band saw and then the bosses machined in the lathe.

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          #219234
          Ryan Norton
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            @ryannorton40317

            Then the crossheads. I have machined these in one piece as indicated previously.

            So far, this procedure seems to have worked out quite successfully.

            crossheads 001.jpg

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            I have altered the counter-bore diameter slightly to suit the size of end-mill that I have which has slightly changed the look of the final crosshead but this should be of no consequence.

            All that is to be done now is to cut the block in half, mill the end to final size and file the end to match the counter-bore radius.

            All the dimensions on the crosshead and guide bars are machined to the closest metric equivalent to make it easier for my less imperial brain. cheeky

            #219236
            Ryan Norton
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              @ryannorton40317

              Here is a pic of the work. I did a test run threading the guide bar, but the die had a courser thread than the tap I used so Ill need to cut that off and re-do it. I did make these bars longer than required so its not an issue.

              steam chest machining 011.jpg

              The random holes in the one bar are irrelevant as this was scrap that I used. The two pieces of mild steel plate are the tops of the crossheads. These will be silver soldered in due course.

              #219243
              Harry Wilkes
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                @harrywilkes58467

                Very nice work well done !

                #221227
                Ryan Norton
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                  @ryannorton40317

                  Thanks Harry!

                  Alrighty then!

                  Here is a sequence of the machining of the cross heads.

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                  The two cross heads were cut apart.

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                  Then the backs machined flat.

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                  Here they are almost done.

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                  The rear radius was machined and the round part around the hole was filed to the final shape.

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                  Finally both cross heads are finished!

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                  Here is the LHS on a scale drawing. Note the e-clips…

                  #221228
                  Ryan Norton
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                    @ryannorton40317

                    Oh I still obviously need to silver solder the tops of the cross heads on.

                    I have also managed to make a slitting saw mandrel.

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                    Now I can cut the valve gear.

                    #221384
                    Ryan Norton
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                      @ryannorton40317

                      I did the silver soldering of the cross head tops today and all went well!

                      I found that the most miniscule amount of brazing material was required and actually beat the stuff I have into a thin strip and then cut it into thinner pieces. This worked a charm and only the smallest of touches of the material to the work once at the correct temperature was enough to do it.

                      I have included photos of the procedure.

                      crossheads 015.jpg

                      All parts were thoroughly cleaned from all shavings and dirt and then wiped with acetone.

                      A small amount of hydrated flux was eased onto the interface between the two parts.

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                      Here they are, after brazing.

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                      Nice wee fillet there!

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                      Once cleaned up with hot water and a brass wire brush, the results were clearly adequate.

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                      I did need a bit of needle filing but nothing to stress over.

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                      The final product!

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                      #221390
                      Michael Gilligan
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                        @michaelgilligan61133

                        Very tidy job, Ryan

                        Looks good to me !!

                        MichaelG.

                        #221409
                        Ryan Norton
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                          @ryannorton40317

                          Thanks Michael, much appreciated.

                          I do have one issue however. As I am using the Walschaerts valve gear, the cross head needs a drop arm which needs to be brazed to the cross head. In my haste to braze the tops, I forgot to do the drop arms. In the words and music, LBSC describes doing both jobs in one heating which makes sense. I am going to have to re-heat and braze on the drop arms separately. My only hope is that the tops do not shift. I will need to concentrate the heat on the drop arm and thinner portion of the cross head. Hold thumbs!

                          #221415
                          Michael Gilligan
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                            @michaelgilligan61133
                            Posted by Ryan Norton on 17/01/2016 08:23:09:

                            I am going to have to re-heat and braze on the drop arms separately. My only hope is that the tops do not shift. I will need to concentrate the heat on the drop arm and thinner portion of the cross head. Hold thumbs!

                            .

                            Scary times ahead, Ryan … take it easy

                            Only you can do the 'Risk Assessment' but I would be tempted to move to a Jewellers' Silver Solder for these details.

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                            MichaelG.

                            #239642
                            Ryan Norton
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                              @ryannorton40317

                              I bit the bullet this afternoon and after finishing the drop arms, decided to silver solder them to the cross heads.

                              The following is an account of the procedure:

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                              The brass bushes to hold the arms on were turned and fitted to the cross heads and then punched to flare the ends holding the arms tightly.

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                              The items were then fluxed.

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                              And then soldered. AND NOTHING MOVED! Hooray!smiley

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                              Very happy with the result!

                              #239643
                              Ryan Norton
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                                @ryannorton40317

                                I have also started doing the con rods

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                                I'm happy with that, all hand filed.

                                I just need to mill the relief, press in the bushes and drill the oil holes. But first, I shall cut out the other con rod.

                                #239696
                                julian atkins
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                                  @julianatkins58923

                                  Hi Ryan,

                                  That is good old fashioned graft on the conn rods and a very good job with which you ought to be very pleased.

                                  Do think of a means to oil the small ends of the conn rods as they do wear rather badly in miniature.

                                  Cheers,

                                  Julian

                                  #239789
                                  Ryan Norton
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                                    @ryannorton40317

                                    HI Julian

                                    Thanks! Do you have any ideas for oiling the small ends? What is common practice regarding this?

                                    Regards,

                                    Ryan

                                    #239826
                                    julian atkins
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                                      @julianatkins58923

                                      You ought to drill an oil passageway from above the small end in the crosshead. Otherwise you squirt a large dollop of oil in between crosshead and small end.

                                      Cheers,

                                      Julian

                                      #240777
                                      Ryan Norton
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                                        @ryannorton40317

                                        I have drilled out the temporary bushes in the crossheads and cut out and rough filed the second conn. rod.

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                                        Here are the two crossheads and conn. rods together.

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                                        In the one crosshead I have a dummy brass piston rod.

                                        #241006
                                        Ryan Norton
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                                          @ryannorton40317

                                          Apart from filing up the second conn. rod, the next parts to make are the expansion link gear frames. I want to have these done so that when the cylinders are erected there will be a stable platform for the guide bars to be mounted to. As I will be fabricating the frames, I have decided to use a jig to make things easier and more accurate whilst brazing.

                                          The below pictures are the jig I have come up with. There are two main parts, the first is a cylindrical beam that will keep the sides of the frame the correct distance apart as well as pressed firmly to the main frame piece. The second is a simple clamp that will be used to keep the little block for the guide bar mount in place when brazing.

                                          The general idea is simple and should hopefully save some hassle.

                                          expansion gear link bracket jig 001.jpg

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                                          #241007
                                          Ryan Norton
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                                            @ryannorton40317

                                            I have also just been messing around with the different views of the valve gear.

                                            It is currently too cold to be in the garage filing. laugh

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                                            It is always nice to see something in 3 dimensions, especially when you cannot visualise it in your head.

                                            I also have found solidworks very useful for checking fits and tolerances before making any of the parts. I am not sure if it does save that much time though…cheeky

                                            Hope it helps someone!

                                            #242043
                                            Ryan Norton
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                                              @ryannorton40317

                                              I made a jig for the milling of the side relief of the connecting rods. This consisted of an aluminium plate, squared up and drilled with two holes at the same centers of the rods. These holes were tapped M5.

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                                              Once complete, the conn. rod was screwed lightly to the jig and using a surface gauge, aligned parallel with the jigs side to allow for perpendicular milling of the relief.

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                                              The gauge was set up so that it could be moved along the length of the jig. The center line of the rod was aligned with the point of the gauge. Once I was happy with the alignment, the two cap screws were tightened and the rod was ready for milling.

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                                              Here is the jig in the machine vice, possibly a little too low for comfort…

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                                              Here is the rod after the first pass with a 5mm cutter.

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                                              This is the finished rod after milling.

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                                              This is the other side.

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                                              Both rods with side relief milling completed.

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                                              #242479
                                              Ryan Norton
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                                                @ryannorton40317

                                                This afternoon I finished milling the connecting rods to their final thickness. I used the jig I made for milling the relief to hold the rods whilst milling the big and small ends. I used a small engineers clamp to hold the side being milled.

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                                                Here is a look at the current assembly…

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                                                #242995
                                                Ryan Norton
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                                                  @ryannorton40317

                                                  Here are some photos I took doing a mock-up of the left cylinder assembly and associated bits.

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                                                  #262658
                                                  Ryan Norton
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                                                    @ryannorton40317

                                                    Does anyone have any idea what the mass of a Tich is, with boiler and tanks full?

                                                    Please let me know.

                                                    #262667
                                                    Another JohnS
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                                                      @anotherjohns

                                                      Ryan – Mass or weight? A long while ago I weighed my large boilered slip eccentric Tich at 20 lbs dry, but that would have been on an old spring bathroom scale. It has flown around a bit in a wooden box that fits in overhead bins in aircraft, and does go through airport xray machines.

                                                      As an aside – the Midlands Exhibition had at least 3 Tiches there, in 3-1/2" gauge, plus one in 7-1/4.

                                                      You are doing a great job on yours, hope to see it at an exhibition in a few years.

                                                      John.

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