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  • #377238
    Ryan Norton
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      @ryannorton40317

      Thanks Hopper!

      Here are some more pictures of work on the radius rods from last night.

      radius rod 007.jpg

      The other side of the block was machined in the mill.

      radius rod 008.jpg

      radius rod 009.jpg

      The block was then cut down the middle with a hacksaw and the sides filed flat.

      radius rod 010.jpg

      Now all I need to do it file the two rods to the final shape countersink the lifting link hole on one side and peen the pin to the rod.

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      #379950
      Ryan Norton
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        @ryannorton40317

        The rods are almost complete. I have filed both to final shape, the one just needs a bit more taken off the taper part to look more the part.

        I am also not going to be peening the pin into the rod, but rather use a floating rod with e-clips on either end. This will allow for a little bit of lateral play in the gear to account for any inaccuracy in my parts.

        radius rod 011.jpg

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        The concave and convex radii on the thicker part of the top rod also still need to be filed.

        I have also got a reject e-clip pin in for reference.

        #381934
        Ryan Norton
        Participant
          @ryannorton40317

          Finally finished the radius rods…

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          #381936
          Ryan Norton
          Participant
            @ryannorton40317

            I have also spent some time working on the first bogie.

            I first had to mill the spring retaining tabs down so that the springs could fit around them.

            bogie assembly 005.jpg

            It turns out the tabs were too long to get the springs over, so I filed them down.

            bogie assembly 006.jpg

            So with a clamp compressing the springs, I managed to get them assembled.

            bogie assembly 002.jpg

            bogie assembly 003.jpg

            bogie assembly 004.jpg

            The assembly went O.K. but I feel that it could be easier and have some ideas for modification.

            I then bored out the bearing holes to a sliding fit – the axles will be a tight fit.

            bogie assembly 007.jpg

            bogie assembly 008.jpg

            The holes for the bearing cover plates were drilled and tapped M4.

            bogie assembly 009.jpg

            bogie assembly 010.jpg

            bogie assembly 011.jpg

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            I am going to remove the bottom square spring retaining tabs and replace them with removable pins, this will make assembly much easier.

            #383472
            Ryan Norton
            Participant
              @ryannorton40317

              I did some more work on the bogie this weekend.

              The square spring retaining tabs were cut off and filed flat and 4 mm holes drilled in their place as per the picture below.

              I also managed to finish rough turning the two axles.

              bogie assembly 015.jpg

              The proof of concept of the new spring retaining pin can be seen in the picture below.

              bogie assembly 016.jpg

              And finally, a bit of a mock up of the whole bogie with wheel blanks.

              bogie assembly 014.jpg

              #385577
              Ryan Norton
              Participant
                @ryannorton40317

                More work on the bogie wheels and frames this week.

                I took some more photos of the spring retaining pins.

                bogie assembly 017.jpg

                The wheel blanks were first faced on the one side then flipped around and the other side faced, center drilled, drilled and then bored to final size.

                bogie wheels 001.jpg

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                A mandrel was then turned in the four-jaw chuck for the final wheel turning operations.

                bogie wheels 006.jpg

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                The outside diameters of all the wheels were turned to within 1 mm of the flange final size.

                bogie wheels 009.jpg

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                bogie wheels 011.jpg

                bogie wheels 012.jpg

                The next step will be to rough turn the treads.

                #386211
                Ryan Norton
                Participant
                  @ryannorton40317

                  This weekend the treads were rough cut with a square profile slightly oversize.

                  bogie wheels 013.jpg

                  bogie wheels 014.jpg

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                  #388810
                  Ryan Norton
                  Participant
                    @ryannorton40317

                    Seasons Greetings to Everyone! I hope you all had a great December break!

                    During my time off I got a little bit ore done on the first driving car bogie.

                    First the treads were cut and using a gauge confirmed to be OK.

                    bogie wheels 017.jpg

                    bogie wheels 018.jpg

                    bogie wheels 019.jpg

                    With the wheels finally complete, they still looked like they needed something more. So I made a recess in the front side of each wheel and painted them. This is what they needed!

                    bogie wheels 020.jpg

                    bogie wheels 021.jpg

                    The Axles were then turned to their final sizes and the wheel and bearing seats turned to within their press fit tolerance. I did the final sanding with water paper to give a good finish. A lead taper of 1 degree was also turned on the end to guide the wheel during pressing.

                    bogie wheels 022.jpg

                    bogie wheels 023.jpg

                    Finally, all the parts are complete.

                    bogie assembly 018.jpg

                    I will paint the axles and then press the wheels and bearings on to complete the assembly.

                    bogie assembly 019.jpg

                    #388815
                    Weary
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                      @weary

                      Excellent results!

                      Can I ask where you got the wheel-gauge from? Or is it home-machined?

                      Regards,

                      Phil

                      #388816
                      Ryan Norton
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                        @ryannorton40317

                        Thanks Phil.

                        The wheel gauge was designed by a friend of mine and laser cut from stainless steel.

                        It has 3 1/2 inch. 5 inch and 7 1/4 inch tread profiles as well as engraved marks for the chamfer and thickness of wheel.

                        Very useful.

                        #389731
                        Ryan Norton
                        Participant
                          @ryannorton40317

                          The axles were first masked and then coated with etch primer.

                          bogie axles 001.jpg

                          Following the etch primer, they were sprayed with four coats of gloss black QD enamel.

                          bogie axles 002.jpg

                          bogie axles 003.jpg

                          A wheel press was then made from some angle and threaded rod to press the wheels onto the axles.

                          bogie assembly 020.jpg

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                          bogie assembly 022.jpg

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                          Following the wheels, the bearings were pressed to the axles.

                          bogie assembly 026.jpg

                          Finally the bogie was assembled.

                          bogie assembly 027.jpg

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                          bogie assembly 029.jpg

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                          bogie assembly 031.jpg

                          All it needs now is a coat of paint on the side frames, bearing covers and stretcher and it is good to go!

                          ….. and then I need to make another one cheeky

                          #389744
                          Jon Lawes
                          Participant
                            @jonlawes51698

                            What a lovely job, well done.

                            #496594
                            Del Greco
                            Participant
                              @delgreco45469

                              I am really impressed. Beautiful job so far. Did you get any further with the build? Of the Tich or the Bogie cart.

                              I've just been donated an unfinished Titch project from one of the members of our club, who is 48 years my senior, and thinks I will get more mileage out of the project.

                              It is at about the stage your last photos were. Frames made, with wheels and hornblocks mounted. The cylinders and steam chests are machined, but not mounted to the frame.

                              Looking forward to see if you have got any further, and see your progress.

                              Kindest regards,

                              Del

                              #512762
                              Ryan Norton
                              Participant
                                @ryannorton40317
                                Posted by Del Greco on 18/09/2020 21:51:13:

                                I am really impressed. Beautiful job so far. Did you get any further with the build? Of the Tich or the Bogie cart.

                                I've just been donated an unfinished Titch project from one of the members of our club, who is 48 years my senior, and thinks I will get more mileage out of the project.

                                It is at about the stage your last photos were. Frames made, with wheels and hornblocks mounted. The cylinders and steam chests are machined, but not mounted to the frame.

                                Looking forward to see if you have got any further, and see your progress.

                                Kindest regards,

                                Del

                                Hi Del

                                Thanks for the kind remarks. Unfortunately I have not made any further progress on my Tich. I have just moved to the UK and need to set up shop again before anything more happens.

                                I wish you all the best on your loco and hope to see some of your progress!

                                #638721
                                Ryan Norton
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                                  @ryannorton40317

                                  Good Evening Everyone

                                  After about 4 years of not working on my Tich, I have finally made a bit more progress. As you all my know I have moved to the UK now and surrendered the majority of my machinery, tooling and tools to that thing called life.

                                  Having made a start again with a very small setup with mostly hand tools and a mini lathe I have made a start on parts that would be easy to produce with my current workshop. The first part I started on was the reversing stand and sector plates.

                                  As usual, the part was marked out with scriber, square and radius gauges. The embryo stand was freed from a strip of cold-rolled bright mild steel and filed to final dimensions, draw-filing the edges to give them that touch of crispness.

                                  The words and music were followed but some changes in sizes and thread type of fasteners were made to suit the taps and dies I have.

                                  reversing stand 001.jpg

                                  * A note regarding cold-rolled steel, it does not bend well and as you may have guessed, the stand in the picture above is my second one, with a slight change in design to accomodate the lack of "bendiness" cheeky

                                  reversing stand 002.jpg

                                  The stand and sector plate were bolted together and filed in the vice, checking with a square every so often.

                                  reversing stand 003.jpg

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                                  The fulcrum and lever pins were turned and provided with some metric thread (M2 and M3), I also made a couple of suitable nuts.

                                  fulcrum pin 001.jpg

                                  fulcrum pin and lever pin.jpg

                                  These little bits are weeny!

                                  Overall I have been happy with the mini-lathe despite the terrible reputation this make in particular has…

                                  #638724
                                  Nigel Graham 2
                                  Participant
                                    @nigelgraham2

                                    Fine work!

                                    Neat way to make a wheel-press.

                                    I've spray-painted (can, not spray-gun) round bars by putting them in the lathe and running that slowly in back-gear, leaving it running until the paint has hardened a bit. Newspaper (not rag!) – and a lot of oil everywhere protected the lathe.

                                    I don't claim originality but recalled a description in ME of using a barbeque spit for this purpose.

                                    #638751
                                    Ryan Norton
                                    Participant
                                      @ryannorton40317

                                      The next bit to make was the lever. This was made in one piece using a piece of bright square bar of appropriate size.

                                      The piece of bar was turned to the final overall length on the lathe, in the 4-jaw chuck. The round handle portion was then turned.

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                                      The collar portion near the bottom of the grip was then formed.

                                      reversing lever 005.jpg

                                      The top of the handle was then rounded off using a file and the taper of the handle started.

                                      reversing lever 006.jpg

                                      The radius at the bottom was formed using a needle file and the whole lot was smoothed out using some wet/dry sandpaper.

                                      reversing lever 007.jpg

                                      Pretty happy with how that came out.

                                      The next procedure was to file the lever portion to the correct thickness, taking off material from both sides, checking for squareness and making sure everything was parallel.

                                      So, using some elbow grease, a file and a vice, the lever started taking shape.

                                      reversing lever 008.jpg

                                      reversing lever 009.jpg

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                                      The embryo lever and the stand and sector plate.

                                      #638757
                                      Ryan Norton
                                      Participant
                                        @ryannorton40317

                                        On to drilling the holes in the lever.

                                        The positions were measured out and marked using a center punch.

                                        reversing lever 012.jpg

                                        As I don't own a drill press yet, the holes were then drilled using the lathe. The drill in the 3-jaw chuck and the embryo lever resting against a wide blank end arbor in the tailstock.

                                        reversing lever 013.jpg

                                        reversing lever 014.jpg

                                        I could not help myself but to see how it all fitted together…

                                        reversing lever 015.jpg

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                                        As you can see the sides of the lever were also draw-filed using a smooth file to give a decent finish.

                                        The final shape of the lever was then marked out and cut/ filed.

                                        reversing lever 017.jpg

                                        reversing lever 018.jpg

                                        It is starting to look the part!

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                                        Finally, the pin for the reversing rod was fitted to the lever by riveting over the back side into a countersink.

                                        reversing lever 021.jpg

                                        reversing lever 022.jpg

                                        This was then filed flush with the back of the lever.

                                        reversing lever 023.jpg

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                                        Edited By Ryan Norton on 23/03/2023 10:31:52

                                        Edited By Ryan Norton on 23/03/2023 10:32:55

                                        #638789
                                        Ryan Norton
                                        Participant
                                          @ryannorton40317

                                          The next item to make according to the words and music was the latch block.

                                          The block was machined to final external dimensions in the lathe using the 4-jaw chuck.

                                          latch block 001.jpg

                                          latch block 002.jpg

                                          latch block 003.jpg

                                          Next, the two perpendicular grooves were made using a hacksaw, needle files and a warding file.

                                          latch block 004.jpg

                                          The thin groove was done first.

                                          latch block 005.jpg

                                          Then the wider groove.

                                          This took a really long time but it was very satisfying to do it all by hand.

                                          Here is the latch block in place on the lever.

                                          latch block 006.jpg

                                          #638807
                                          Grenville Hunt
                                          Participant
                                            @grenvillehunt47315

                                            Welcome back Ryan, great work on the Tich please keep the posts coming you have inspired me to continue working on mine after about the same amount of inactivity.

                                            Gren.

                                            #638808
                                            roy entwistle
                                            Participant
                                              @royentwistle24699

                                              Nice to see hand tools being used instead of everything being machined.

                                              Roy

                                              #638826
                                              Ryan Norton
                                              Participant
                                                @ryannorton40317

                                                Thanks Gren and Roy!

                                                Here is a render of Tich that I have been working on in CAD as well.

                                                tich render 2023.jpg

                                                #638890
                                                Ryan Norton
                                                Participant
                                                  @ryannorton40317

                                                  The latch was next, starting the same way as the latch block, a chunk of steel in the 4-jaw chuck, machined to final external dimensions, marked out and a hole drilled for the pin.

                                                  latch 001.jpg

                                                  latch 002.jpg

                                                  Once drilled the bulk of the block was removed with a hacksaw and then filed to produce the latch cross-section.

                                                  latch 003.jpg

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                                                  The material at the sides was then removed to finish it off.

                                                  latch 007.jpg

                                                  There was much fitting and fettling of the latch and latch block to get a decent fit.

                                                  latch 008.jpg

                                                  latch 009.jpg

                                                  Here is the lot together for a test fit.

                                                  #641274
                                                  Ryan Norton
                                                  Participant
                                                    @ryannorton40317

                                                    Changing tack a bit and this time diverging from the Words and Music slightly, I decided to modify the bottom of the reversing stand so that it bolts directly to the mounting bracket with four 12BA bolts. This was to overcome bending the bottom of the stand and having it split on me again.

                                                    The first thing was to mark out the holes at the bottom of the stand and center punch.

                                                    reversing lever 025.jpg

                                                    Next, the holes were drilled in the lathe, using a blank arbour mounted in the tailstock as a drilling pad.

                                                    reversing lever 026.jpg

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                                                    The position of the holes was then transferred to the side of the bracket angle by making small countersinks. The piece of angle was clamped to a vee block and the stand then clamped at 90 degrees to the angle on the vee block, using a tool makers clamp.

                                                    reversing lever 028.jpg

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                                                    The countersinks were then drilled out with a 12BA tapping drill (1.1mm).

                                                    reversing lever 031.jpg

                                                    The holes were then tapped 12BA.

                                                    reversing lever 032.jpg

                                                    The holes in the bracket were then drilled and fitted with some 6BA bolts and nuts.

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                                                    …and then, I could not resist a bit of a mock-up on the chasis.

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                                                    Also, whilst I had the chasis out I made some as-built measurements of the motion to input into my CAD model.

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                                                    valve gear assembly 002.jpg

                                                    #641281
                                                    Ryan Norton
                                                    Participant
                                                      @ryannorton40317

                                                      The final piece to be made is the trigger. A piece of 3/8 square rod was used and machined to length in the 4 jaw chuck. A piece was cut off one of the sides and filed to a final width of 5mm. The layout was marked out and holes punched for drilling.

                                                      trigger 001.jpg

                                                      The two holes were drilled holding the piece in the 4 jaw chuck. (The copper was inserted to increase the gap so as to prevent the jaws touching on the one side).

                                                      trigger 002.jpg

                                                      Once drilled, the slot at the bottom was rough cut using a hacksaw and then filed to size using needle files and offering up to the lever and latch for fitting.

                                                      trigger 003.jpg

                                                      The sides were then cut out and the overall shape filed to suit.

                                                      Here you can see the partial side cuts.

                                                      trigger 004.jpg

                                                      Then only one side was removed with the other bit left on for holding in the vice whilst filing.

                                                      trigger 005.jpg

                                                      The first side was filed and radiused.

                                                      trigger 006.jpg

                                                      Then the other side completely cut off and filed. I left a little square of material near the corner as this is where the radius is located.

                                                      trigger 007.jpg

                                                      trigger 008.jpg

                                                      The above picture shows the radius being filed using a piece of 1/8 offcut positioned inside the slot to prevent any distortion whilst in the vice.

                                                      The trigger filed to final overall dimensions but needs the rest of the radii filed and the cross-section of the long part reduced in width.

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