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  • #182787
    Neil Wyatt
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      @neilwyatt

      > I'm sure Neil is sitting on his hands, waiting for Diane to print his manuscript…

      I know Diane is sitting on hers waiting for me to finish it!

      Neil

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      #182836
      Neil Wyatt
      Moderator
        @neilwyatt

        31/2” Gauge Rally At Littledown

        From the Bournemouth and District Society of Model Engineers:

        "The smaller gauges are seeing a revival; the locos are more
        manageable and the castings and materials cost less. What
        they may lack in pulling power, they more than make up for
        in the driving experience. A gathering last year at Southampton
        drew a large number of working and part built locos and the
        photograph shows me driving my Canterbury Lamb at that event.
        Our 3½” Gauge Open Day will be held at the Littledown
        Miniature Railway on Saturday 25th April 2015. All Members and
        visitors are invited, locos large or small as long as they are 31/2”
        Gauge. So dust off your Tichs and Juliets, to name a few, and
        bring them along, even if they are not going to be steamed. No
        passengers will be hauled, Members and visitors are free to potter
        around the track. Let’s put some wear on the 31/2” Gauge rails!"

        http://www.littledownrailway.co.uk

        Neil

        #182865
        Bob Brown 1
        Participant
          @bobbrown1

          Now that's not a million miles away although there is a ferry trip but April is not the silly season for fares.

          Bob

          #182872
          IanT
          Participant
            @iant

            No one has mentioned any of the N/G 3.5" engine designs that are available. Larger/Heavier engines – and some fairly straight forward. I sold my 'Russell' some time ago but still have the 'Conway' (fairly simple) and 'Lew' (not so simple) chassis down the Shed. However – I made the move down-gauge (by an inch) some years ago.

            "The smaller gauges are seeing a revival; the locos are more manageable and the castings and materials cost less"…… This of course also applies to 2.5" gauge too – perhaps more so ! laugh

            And just for JAS – modern image is starting to appear in G3 circles too – how about this one (it's not the engine you mentioned as being at MEX I'm afraid).

            Regards, IanT

            G3 AGM - 2014

            Edited By IanT on 11/03/2015 12:34:04

            #182896
            wendy jackson
            Participant
              @wendyjackson

              I for one would like to see more of interest in 3.5 gauge. I have a Britannia which needs sorting after a long lay up in some ones damp garage. michael

              #184203
              william Powell
              Participant
                @williampowell50917

                Neil has mention about the Bournemouth Rally on the 25th April. I started building (and still need to finish it!) a 5" gauge Dewinton. Its not a large loco but still a large lump, even for a young (just past 30) person. I picked up a part build slip eccentric Juliet (i have since sold her) finished her and run her for 2 years at the Littledown track and visting other clubs. She was simple but a fun engine to drive and taught me a lot.

                To take her place i upgraded to a Canterbury Lamb, i don't think she is even half the size of Juliet! I really enjoy driving her, she keeps me on toes when steaming around the Bournemouth track. Next in line on the work bench is a 2 1/2" gauge Ayesha, the loco that showed it was possible to pull a adult and help shape the future of ME clubs.

                I do enjoy driving the club Speedy when passenger hauling, but there is something about running a smaller loco even if it just you who is being pulled around. Also these day with the ever increasing costs of materials its value for money. Interestingly not a week goes by with out parts or a complete small loco is on ebay, there always seem to sell, are people finishing them?

                Will

                #185131
                Neil Wyatt
                Moderator
                  @neilwyatt

                  I've been contacted by someone who has been trying to get information from the Leyland club about their requirements for spark arrestors or deflectors and the width of their tip rail ahead of this month's rally.

                  I just emailed their new email – and it's bounced which explains why he hasn't had any replies.

                  If anyone from the Leyland club who reads this could help clarify if a spark deflector is sufficient and how wide driving truck footrests need to be spaced, it would be much appreciated.

                  Thanks,

                  Neil

                  #185284
                  Steve Papworth
                  Participant
                    @stevepapworth83993

                    I just wonder how many "Tich", "Juliet" and "Rob Roy" engines are out there, totally un-used because the beginner that built them can't keep them in steam.

                    Yes, you should build an engine that you like or admire, but make sure it's of a reasonable size to be partially forgiving when being run by a tyro.

                    My "Rob Roy" has got 7 fire-tubes and when everything is clean, I can just keep it in steam, but after an afternoon's running, one or two tubes can get blocked, and then it's a losing battle.

                    My advice would be a tender engine or a large tank engine. For the latter, I have always thought Martin Evan's "William" might be a suitable first engine, as the extra length gives more reserves in the boiler.

                    Edited By Steve Papworth on 02/04/2015 17:50:26

                    #185305
                    geoff walker 1
                    Participant
                      @geoffwalker1

                      Hi Steve,

                      I noticed in your photos that you are still using an M type.

                      Is it the same one that featured in your M.E. articles in 1994?

                      I remember the articles, some really innovative repairs and modifications

                      Best regards geoff

                      #185324
                      julian atkins
                      Participant
                        @julianatkins58923

                        hi steve,

                        might i suggest you use a better grade of coal and of the right size and sieve out first all the crap and small particles, and perhaps check whether the firebars can be lowered a bit? also firing in the correct manner should avoid the problems you have encountered, plus good draughting/improved draughting will pay dividends. the Rob Roy draughting isnt one of martin evan's best!

                        cheers,

                        julian

                        #185338
                        HomeUse
                        Participant
                          @homeuse

                          Hi – Just for interest there is a 3.5inch group on Facebook 03 1/2” Gauge Enthusiasts Group.. lots of comments/pics. and info.

                          #185413
                          Ken Gillott
                          Participant
                            @kengillott

                            Northumbrian ? I bought a set of castings when the build was being serialised in ME but must confess haven't started building it as yet.

                            #186586
                            Steve Papworth
                            Participant
                              @stevepapworth83993

                              Hi Geoff.

                              Thanks for the kind comments. Yes, it's the same 'M' type. I'm still very happy with it, and with the big gap in the bed, I can turn stuff that you wouldn't be able to fit on an ML7.

                              Regards…Steve

                              #186674
                              Malcolm Harvey
                              Participant
                                @malcolmharvey97633

                                Well I have only just noticed this section so I thought I had better say hello! I am currently doing a Titfield Thunderbolt in 3.5" gauge mainly as a not too costly way of getting the experience of doing things. Also I have seen the full size Lion in steam many years ago which does add an interest in it. I also have a Britannia in 3.5" gauge which my Father started building many years ago – well errr – 1951 actually. I have now decided to take this on and get it finished. I also have an almost completed Tich in 3.5" gauge which to be perfectly honest has very little interest for me. Both myself and my Father had reached a full stop in setting up the valve gear (Walschaerts). It doesn't inspire me. If I have a go at something else it will almost certainly be 3.5" gauge. The reasons are really down to cost of castings and copper for boilers, size of the finished loco, in as much as I need somewhere to put it when its completed. And finally I am not getting any younger and I really do not wish to be hugging 5" gauge Atlantics and Pacifics around.

                                Thanks for starting this section, I will now keep my eye on it!

                                Malcolm

                                #186690
                                Boiler Bri
                                Participant
                                  @boilerbri

                                  I recently posted on the forum if anyone knew the whereabouts of a loco i build. It was an lbsc betty 262. When i took it to join a club local to me i was frowned upon for making a model that would not pull passengers. I did not know if it would or not at the time. ARound the time of doing so i was diagnosed with cancer. I panicked and sold it along with a load of other stuff that i thought would generate cash for my family.

                                  It turned out ok and i am still here😅

                                  I would like to track it down and see how it runs etc.

                                  I also joined another club with a completely different outlook on the hobby and enjoy every minute i can spend there. I am on 5" locos now and building a sweetpea which definatly pulls people👍

                                  If anyone knows where the engine is i would be much obliged.

                                  Brian

                                  #199217
                                  ruston165
                                  Participant
                                    @ruston165

                                    Not sure how may are following the other post regarding a society for 3 1/2 inch gauge, I have grabbed the bull by the horns as they say and made an attempt at starting such a society. I'm very much in the early stages of setting up a website and forum although it is under way, anyone wishing to help it would be appreciated. Also a sneak peak of the website can be found here, **LINK**. I'm very much an amature at doing these things.

                                    Regards, Lee

                                    #199218
                                    Boiler Bri
                                    Participant
                                      @boilerbri

                                      Just bought a William from a fellow club member. Great engine and light enough to lift out of the car boot and still have pulling power.

                                      Bri

                                      #201422
                                      Simon Clough
                                      Participant
                                        @simonclough62239

                                        Hi

                                        Perhaps we at the 2.5 Gauge association could help with advise on setting up of your association. We also faced the demise of 2.5 back in the 1970s and a small group held a rally at Cheltenham to see what the response would be. From those early days we have gone on to form the association as it is to day we have rally's from May to September, our main one is at Rugby in the center of the country. Perhaps a joint rally of 2.5 and 3.5 as we share the same rail! what do you think?

                                        Please feel free to visit our website http://www.n25ga.org.uk/

                                        I hope it all comes together Please feel free to PM me if you want any help.

                                        Regards

                                        Simon Clough

                                        Southern Sec N 2.5 Gauge Association

                                        #577718
                                        Richard Lewis 5
                                        Participant
                                          @richardlewis5

                                          Is anyone building an A4 Pacific in 3 1/2" Gauge ?

                                          #638970
                                          Terry Chapman 2
                                          Participant
                                            @terrychapman2
                                            Posted by Neil Wyatt on 06/03/2015 10:41:37:

                                            Over the years there has been repeated lamentation of the lack of a society for people interested in 3 1/2" gauge locomotives.

                                            A few abortive attempts have been made to set up a group, or even a forum but none have succeeded.

                                            This thread is an attempt to encourage discussion on a gauge which combines affordability and transportability while still being large enough to haul passengers. This is aimed at electric, steam and other forms of propulsion, which is why it's under the general topic. Also, I hope it could be of interest to those (like me) with wider interests who could find electric 3 1/2" gauge a relatively quick way into this side of the hobby.

                                            If there is sufficient interest participants' could perhaps meet up at rallies or other events, and who knows, eventually a club or society could emerge.

                                            But this is all up to you. perhaps we could start by folks with 3 1/2" gauge models telling us who they are and what locos they have?

                                            hi,

                                            sounds good to me. I have a bantam cock and would like to meet up with other 3 1/2" owners.

                                            #638972
                                            Terry Chapman 2
                                            Participant
                                              @terrychapman2
                                              img_1901.jpgimg_1900.jpgimg_1899.jpgPosted by Neil Wyatt on 06/03/2015 10:41:37:

                                              Over the years there has been repeated lamentation of the lack of a society for people interested in 3 1/2" gauge locomotives.

                                              A few abortive attempts have been made to set up a group, or even a forum but none have succeeded.

                                              This thread is an attempt to encourage discussion on a gauge which combines affordability and transportability while still being large enough to haul passengers. This is aimed at electric, steam and other forms of propulsion, which is why it's under the general topic. Also, I hope it could be of interest to those (like me) with wider interests who could find electric 3 1/2" gauge a relatively quick way into this side of the hobby.

                                              If there is sufficient interest participants' could perhaps meet up at rallies or other events, and who knows, eventually a club or society could emerge.

                                              But this is all up to you. perhaps we could start by folks with 3 1/2" gauge models telling us who they are and what locos they have?

                                              sounds good to me.Would like to meet other 3 1/2 owners. I have a Bantam Cock.img_1898.jpg

                                              Mod edit: rotated photos.

                                              Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 25/03/2023 11:14:31

                                              #638974
                                              Richard Lewis 5
                                              Participant
                                                @richardlewis5

                                                Nice looking Loco, i have also built a Bantam Cock, happy to share experiences.

                                                I am currently building an A4 Pacific and would like to share with other builders.

                                                #638975
                                                Terry Chapman 2
                                                Participant
                                                  @terrychapman2

                                                  hi bud,this one was built in 1988 and has never been fired.Hope to do that soon as soon as I can work out the controls??

                                                  #638979
                                                  noel shelley
                                                  Participant
                                                    @noelshelley55608

                                                    Terry ! The big handle makes it go. The little screw thingy on the left decides which way. The knob at the bottom of the glass tube is a gauge blow down. The one near the pressure gauge may be the blower. The square nut at the bottom should be the boiler blow down. Top left looks like a feed water control as I think is the bottom left.. Does this help ? Noel.

                                                    #639046
                                                    Terry Chapman 2
                                                    Participant
                                                      @terrychapman2
                                                      Posted by noel shelley on 24/03/2023 18:08:19:

                                                      Terry ! The big handle makes it go. The little screw thingy on the left decides which way. The knob at the bottom of the glass tube is a gauge blow down. The one near the pressure gauge may be the blower. The square nut at the bottom should be the boiler blow down. Top left looks like a feed water control as I think is the bottom left.. Does this help ? Noel.

                                                      Hi Noel,thanks for that, There another lever hidden that Ive tracked to the the water cocks on the cylinders and another one just under the cab roof for the whistle. Does the reg. lever have to be fully up or down when firing? Thanks again,Terry

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