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11 October 2017 at 22:15 #321097
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
I've decided we ought to have a fun and simple competition open with a Christmas theme that's to all forum members.

Your Mission: Create a pair of candlesticks.

They can be as big or small as you like (cake candles to churche candles), of at least two suitable materials.

Judgement will be entirely arbitrary, but might take into account:
1. Finish – are they well made.
2. Design – do they work properly and look nice.
3. Match – how well do they match each other.
So the basic challenge is to make something decent out of at least two different materials – and then make another one to match it.

All entries MUST be designed and made after I post this message, no 'here's one I made earlier'.

They don't have to be metal.

My decision is final, no squabbling.

Please use this thread to discuss ideas and share progress. I will start a thread to post pictures of your finished entries towards the end of November.

The deadline will be 10th November to give me a chance to find a small prize and get it to the winner via Santa.

Of course, all entrants will be winners because they will end up with a nice gift for someone this Christmas!

Good luck, and lets see some interesting ideas.

Neil

P.S. Blue Peter Advent Crowns are disqualified on taste and fire safety grounds.
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11 October 2017 at 22:15 #39737
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
A competition for all pockets and abilities
12 October 2017 at 09:50 #321126
Ady1
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@ady1
So the basic challenge is to make something decent out of at least two different materials – and then make another one to match it.

I'm confused, any candlestick I know is made out of one different material
12 October 2017 at 17:49 #321195
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
Posted by Ady1 on 12/10/2017 09:50:04:

So the basic challenge is to make something decent out of at least two different materials – and then make another one to match it.

I'm confused, any candlestick I know is made out of one different material

That's why it's a challenge
12 October 2017 at 17:59 #321197
ega
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@ega
Some wooden candlesticks have a metal cup to catch dripping wax.
12 October 2017 at 18:27 #321201
Iain Downs
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@iaindowns78295
My candlestick from last year (not allowed of course) was brass and steel.

I'm more of a utility than beauty sort of person…

Iain
12 October 2017 at 19:51 #321210
Jon Cameron
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@joncameron26580
So this is a challenge to build two identical candlesticks, so one could be Brass one Aluminium. Or is it to build two candlesticks identical from two different materials? Is there an exclusion to 3D printing, (not that I have it, but I know there's a lot of different materials to use in a 3D printed parts. If there isn't someone will have one made in a Jiffy.
12 October 2017 at 19:58 #321211
JasonB
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@jasonb
Conditions do say "suitable materials" not sure if plastic is a suitable material where it could contact a flame as the candle burns right down so only those with the ability to print metal parts may have it done in a jiffy
12 October 2017 at 20:01 #321212
Jon Cameron
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@joncameron26580
Jason just putting it out there as a possible, the stem could be turned from Ali, the base 3D printed?
13 October 2017 at 12:19 #321271
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
Any sensible materials, but if it could melt or catch fire when the candle burns sown it will lose LOTS of points on design!

They should match, it's up to you to interpret 'match' and hope your interpretation matches the judges.

Neil
13 October 2017 at 13:20 #321281
JasonB
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@jasonb
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 13/10/2017 12:19:50:

They should match, it's up to you to interpret 'match' and hope your interpretation matches the judges.

Neil

Neil, originally you said "Your Mission: Create a pair of candlestick" now you say they "should match"

Are entrants allowed to have the pair complement each other as a pair can often not be matching in which case your fellow Judge may have different interpretations than you! For example they could be mirror images or interlocking.
13 October 2017 at 13:22 #321282
SillyOldDuffer
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@sillyoldduffer
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 13/10/2017 12:19:50:

Any sensible materials, but if it could melt or catch fire when the candle burns sown it will lose LOTS of points on design!

…

Hoist by my own petard again…

Dave
13 October 2017 at 13:27 #321285
Jon Cameron
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@joncameron26580
I have an idea in mind, will be a bit of a bodge, (ie made from the limited scrap I have). But i was thinking along the lines of a mirror image of each other. It won't be so much precision, as creative. Just hope it works.
13 October 2017 at 13:29 #321288
Jon Cameron
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@joncameron26580
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 13/10/2017 13:22:33:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 13/10/2017 12:19:50:

Any sensible materials, but if it could melt or catch fire when the candle burns sown it will lose LOTS of points on design!

…

Hoist by my own petard again…

Dave

Dave that made me chuckle, I like that idea, see Christmas off with a bang
13 October 2017 at 15:22 #321308
Tim Stevens
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@timstevens64731
Right: the base is a lathe chuck, with the jaws upwards. Clamped in the jaws is the stem of a hole cutter. In the hole cutter is a candle which fits snugly. Next to it, is another identical chuck, in the same position, etc.

No need to send the bits or even a picture, and no waste whatsoever as all parts can be returned to the 'useful kit' cupboard on twelfth night. It can't be more enviro-friendly than that, surely?

Regards, Tim
13 October 2017 at 18:59 #321349
SillyOldDuffer
Moderator
@sillyoldduffer
Do I get a prize for a Virtual entry? For a small fee I can provide the STL file so that Neil can print one for everybody.

Or as it might look in clear plastic:

The decorative holes spiral vertically up the inside of the candlestick. Can anyone suggest a way of producing an object like this (full of twirly holes) without using a 3D printer to build it up layer by layer?

Dave

PS Designed and rendered with Fusion360. Highlights tarted up with GIMP.
13 October 2017 at 19:57 #321356
JasonB
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@jasonb
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 13/10/2017 18:59:54:

Do I get a prize for a Virtual entry? For a small fee I can provide the STL file so that Neil can print one for everybody.

Would he not need to print two for everybody so they each had a pair?

J
13 October 2017 at 20:05 #321359
SillyOldDuffer
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@sillyoldduffer
Posted by JasonB on 13/10/2017 19:57:25:

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 13/10/2017 18:59:54:

Do I get a prize for a Virtual entry? For a small fee I can provide the STL file so that Neil can print one for everybody.

Would he not need to print two for everybody so they each had a pair?

J

Certainly. Good job Neil loves 3D printing – it will keep him busy until xmas next year.

Dave
13 October 2017 at 20:27 #321360
Neil Wyatt
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@neilwyatt
Neil is working on his entry already

As I can't actually enter, I'm only doing one and it would be disqualified on several grounds anyway!

Neil
13 October 2017 at 20:29 #321361
Neil Wyatt
Moderator
@neilwyatt
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 13/10/2017 18:59:54:

The decorative holes spiral vertically up the inside of the candlestick. Can anyone suggest a way of producing an object like this (full of twirly holes) without using a 3D printer to build it up layer by layer?

Virtual entries are only eligible for virtual prizes

I thought those were coolant holes.

Neil
13 October 2017 at 20:34 #321362
JasonB
Moderator
@jasonb
Neil would it be an idea to ask entrants to take some in progress photos of the construction of their entries as it may be nice to have a write up from the winner of how them made their sticks either in the mag or on the forum.

J

PS stop playing with that 3D printer and get the next issue of MEW off to the printers
13 October 2017 at 22:20 #321375
Neil Wyatt
Moderator
@neilwyatt
Posted by JasonB on 13/10/2017 13:20:24:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 13/10/2017 12:19:50:

They should match, it's up to you to interpret 'match' and hope your interpretation matches the judges.

Neil

Neil, originally you said "Your Mission: Create a pair of candlestick" now you say they "should match"

Are entrants allowed to have the pair complement each other as a pair can often not be matching in which case your fellow Judge may have different interpretations than you! For example they could be mirror images or interlocking.

In my first post I said: "Match – how well do they match each other." but a non-identical pair might still pick up enough points if they design is clever enough… but the point of a pair of candlesticks has to be that they go together well.

Progress shots welcome and can be posted here if people want.

Neil
13 October 2017 at 22:23 #321376
Neil Wyatt
Moderator
@neilwyatt
Here's my non-entry, a Halloween Candlestick. It isn't very heat resistant for a start and only one material (if you don't count paint). I suppose I could argue the Pumpkin is the other half of the pair demonstrating both CAD and manual carving skills…
22 October 2017 at 16:13 #322860
Speedy Builder5
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@speedybuilder5
Neil – You have been rumbled !!! BBC1 this afternoon, "Money for Nothing" Candlesticks made from old copper tubing plus brass fittings thrown out at the local tip and a bit of wood turning. Apparently cost £300 to make them and they sold for £400.
Come on lads, Neil is going to take all our designs and clean up – with the thousands he is going to make, he will hot foot it with a sack of gold on his back. Then he will buy up all the Super Adepts and probably Perfecto hand shapers.
What do you reckon ??
BobH
24 October 2017 at 17:50 #323309
SillyOldDuffer
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@sillyoldduffer
My family are convinced I have a workshop costing £50,000 plus and only use it to make swarf. They're right…

Dave
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