I think we need a bit more info or even better some photos; It's going to sound like pedantry but it really will help us narrow down what you need!

Are you referring to the double sided ploughs pulled by ploughing engines? I assume you are not talking about the ploughing engines themselves?

Blackgates list the implements under the Countrymans Steam banner, though 1963 is too old for those

The Superba and also the 16hp ploughing engine were also serialized in ME back in the 80'S

looks to be more of a very basic free lance design than anything Fowler and no sign of any ploughing gear or drum

Apart from a bit of missing plumbing to get water into the boiler via the two clack valves on the side of the boiler and the pump and injector there does not look to be much missing to get a basic running engine. Steering also needs looking at. I have my doubts as to whether it could be converted to a ploughing engine for several reasons.

However before you invest any time and money into it get the club inspector to look over that steel boiler, at 60 years old and no way of telling what use it has had or how it has been stored it may not be safe to use.

The raised sides of the hornplates are missing, which may mean it is not the Haining design and someone was freelancing an earlier wrought iron engine with the cradle for the crankshaft.

The cylinder is looking for it's missing coffee pot cover and only Fowler used them, It also has the Oxford rebuild style safeties and smokebox + no Church valve.

The rear wheels are built Superba style in three pieces.

For drawings the bigger Haining Class V 16nhp will be close enough with care, as serialised in ME during 82 to 83, you rarely see the proper A3 drawings, but these are identical to the ones in ME. The K5 is a much smaller 6 to 8nhp engine though it does have the correct straight flywheel.

As in years 1982 to 83 in every other mag.

Ross's engine is not a BB1, it's an earlier single cylinder. And as it predates all of Haining's published designs it won't be to those.

I mentioned earliad my doubts if it could be made into a plough, these are some of the reasons why

To me it looks like the smokebox on Alex's engine is the wrong way round, of the ploughing engines with long smokeboxes the perch bracket should be towards the front which puts the axle forwards giving room for the drum. Is it really only held on with 4 fixings?

The lack of hornplates and any sign of bracketry for the ploughing shaft and drum pivot will mean that welding the last two and suitable strengthening plates to the boiler will be required which would likely need a coded welder or a very capable person and weld tests.

Also well as some way to get a central bearing onto the spindly looking crankshaft. Then there is the issue of how to support the winch controls with no hornplates. Side load on the bevel and lack of specticle plates or meaty enough bearing supports would mean you could not really pull anything even if you got a drum fitted, thats if the low spoke count wheels did not fold first.

Edited By JasonB on 04/06/2022 07:12:37

Its and it's sister engine are not based on a specific engine as they did vary in the early days, they are numbered to place them around 1880 which I think is about 30yrs before the BB1. There are also a lot of detail differences between Hainings 16NHP and Ross's engine not least that his is far closer to the prototypes of the day where Hainings is better described as "stand off scale" as the RC plane modellers call it, in other words Hainings looks roughly like a 16NHP at 10 paces!

The castings for Ross's originally came from Station Road Steam, if you are on TT then there is a good long build thread though some of the pictures don't show now