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  • #207357
    Stewart Hart
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      @stewarthart90345

      Hi

      I'm contemplating starting a long term project:- a 2-6-0 Horwich Crab to Don Young's design.

      Is there any one out their with any information or experiences of this design, what are the pitfalls, drawing errors, general impression, where did you get the casting/boiler/laser cut parts from, how did you deviate from Don's design etc etc.

      Cheers

      Stew

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      #1459
      Stewart Hart
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        @stewarthart90345
        #207463
        julian atkins
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          @julianatkins58923

          hi Stew,

          very good design, and not aware of any problems. excellent performer. one of Don's best!

          cheers,

          julian

          #231028
          Stewart Hart
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            @stewarthart90345

            dsc02661.jpgdsc02644.jpgdsc02642.jpgdsc02637.jpgdsc02611.jpgdsc02609.jpgdsc02603.jpgWell Taken me 8 weeks but I've finally whittled a pair of cylinders for the Crab out of two 4"*4*5" billets of meehanite cast.

            Here's a few action pics

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            Edited By Stewart Hart on 21/03/2016 11:53:09

            #231029
            Stewart Hart
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              @stewarthart90345

              I realy don't find loading pictures to this site user friendly this should be at the beginning of the sequence:-

               

              Taken me 8 weeks but I've finally whittled a pair of cylinders for the Crab out of two 4"*4*5" billets of meehanite cast.

              Here's a few action pics

               

              and they've gone out of sequence.

               

              Ho-well you'll get the idea.

              Stew

              Edited By Stewart Hart on 21/03/2016 11:55:36

              #231036
              Neil Wyatt
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                @neilwyatt

                Excellent Stew,

                If it wasn't for the time on each pic, I would assume you have a putting on tool.

                Neil

                #287901
                Stewart Hart
                Participant
                  @stewarthart90345

                  I've made a fair bit of progress with the crab so I though it was about time for an update.

                  I've got the frame assembled with the stretchers and the horn blocks machined, sorry no photos I can't find them.

                  Wheels

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                  Axles from ground mild steel bar

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                  Axle boxes

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                  Quatering the wheels

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                  I'll take a picture of the stuff assembled in the frame

                  I'm currently working on the pony truck this is fabricated from laser cut parts, I'm scratching my head with how it goes together especially the spring centring I'm not following the drawing I'm trying to use my own idea to simplify the arrangement.

                  Stew

                  #298846
                  Stewart Hart
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                    @stewarthart90345

                    Time for another update

                    This is the progress so fardsc02931.jpg

                    The pony truck was fabricated and silver soldered together

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                    I didn't follow Don young's centralising system I used a simpler system copied from a friends 7 1/4 crab, I'm taking her to the club track next week to push her round the bends to check that it works OK in 5".

                    This is a picture of it.

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                    Its a getting a hefty lump to handle so next week I'm going to make/modify an assembly jig so that I can move her about without giving myself an injury.

                    Stew

                    Edited By Stewart Hart on 19/05/2017 16:17:09

                    #298856
                    Boiler Bri
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                      @boilerbri

                      That's looking very nice. I will look forwards to the next pictures and update.

                      Brian

                      #298865
                      Neil Wyatt
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                        @neilwyatt

                        Good progress, Stew.

                        #341051
                        Stewart Hart
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                          @stewarthart90345

                          I think its about time I post an update of progress so far.

                          I've been slowly beavering away at the build except for a few small tooling projects just as a change. I've got the slide bars and cross head made and I'm making the valve linkage at the moments I did buy a set of laser cut linkages but I didn't like the way you have to fabricate the forked ends so I'm making them out of solid so that they can be case hardened.

                          Any way her's a few photos.

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                          The motion plate is made from a laser cut part with the edge fluting milled in the same as for the radius Link Bracket that's shown her clamp roughly in place as a trial fit it won't get fitted till I have the rest of the valve links fitted so that it can be correctly placed.

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                          And I've recently taken delivery taken delivery of the Boiler from Western Steam and I must say they've made a lovely job of it with great service.

                           

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                          Stew

                           

                          Edited By Stewart Hart on 12/02/2018 07:39:22

                          #343366
                          Stewart Hart
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                            @stewarthart90345

                            Just to give you some idea of whats involved in making the valve linkage

                            This is the Radius Rod

                            Square up a length of mild steel bar mill the slots and drill holes and corner positions, then chew out the material not wanted.

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                            This gives you some idea where they go on the loco.

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                            Stew

                            #343373
                            Neil Wyatt
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                              @neilwyatt

                              Blimey Stew, six years to make a radius rod…

                              #343375
                              Peter Layfield
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                                @peterlayfield

                                Hi Stewart, Thank you for sharing your Crab build it is/was most enjoyable to see such rapid and quality progress

                                #374601
                                Stewart Hart
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                                  @stewarthart90345

                                  I've not updated this since February I have made progress since then but progress was slow through the summer months as other things got in the way. I've more or less completed the motion with one or two thing needing tidying up and one more link to make but I can't do that until I've determined the hole centres then its a mater of setting the valve events to try it on air.

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                                  Ignore the date on the photo I still havn't got round to setting the camera to the correct date.

                                  Stew

                                  #378861
                                  Stewart Hart
                                  Participant
                                    @stewarthart90345
                                    I've just achieved a significant milestone with this build in that I've just got it running on air
                                     
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                                    Its runs a little lumpy because I only roughly centred the valves by eye and I had left some of the brackets lose so things should get better . I've still got to make the radius link to complete all the motion works but I'm very pleased that I've reached this important milestone.
                                     
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                                    Stew
                                    #378866
                                    AJW
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                                      @ajw

                                      Looks well you must be proud of your achievements!
                                      Well done.

                                      Alan

                                      #378870
                                      Neil Wyatt
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                                        @neilwyatt

                                        Nice one Stew yes

                                        #378875
                                        Jon Lawes
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                                          @jonlawes51698

                                          Excellent!

                                          #378915
                                          Stewart Hart
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                                            @stewarthart90345

                                            Thanks for your comments chaps.

                                            When I've got the last bit of linkage made and done a little tinkering, its going away whilst I do a short term project I have planned then I'm going to finish off the tender before dusting it down and getting on with make more bits for it.

                                            Stew

                                            #442944
                                            Stewart Hart
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                                              @stewarthart90345

                                              Well I guess its time for a progress update:- I've spent the last 12 months building the tender its now more or less complete just a little bit of tidying up required.

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                                              I'll crack on with finishing off the loco next year.

                                              Stew

                                              #443466
                                              Dave Wootton
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                                                @davewootton

                                                Very nice job Stew, have been following your progress with interest, been building a 2 1/2" gauge Crab for a while, there's a picture in my album. on hold due to moving house and imminent redundancy and early retirement.

                                                Hope to be able to get on with it soon, you have spurred me on to paint my (almost finished) tender, keep us posted with your further progress.

                                                Keep up the good work.

                                                Dave

                                                #443491
                                                Jeff Dayman
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                                                  @jeffdayman43397

                                                  Looking great Stewart! Thanks for the progress report.

                                                  #473804
                                                  Stewart Hart
                                                  Participant
                                                    @stewarthart90345

                                                    Time for an update, this lock-down has certainly speeded things up:-

                                                    Chimney, Smoke box, door and saddle

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                                                    Trimming smoke box to length

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                                                    Smoke box saddle fabrication

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                                                    Completed smoke box door

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                                                    its begining to look like the finished loco now

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                                                    Stew

                                                    #473973
                                                    old mart
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                                                      @oldmart

                                                      I've just read 50 Famous British Locomotives by Peter Herring and your crab is in there. I see that it is the angle of the cylinders that is responsible for the nickname. What ever would Stevenson's Rocket be called at that rate?

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