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    DC31k
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      Following on from the DSG one, the one presented here (metric only) is clever:

      https://www.ernault.com/cat_view/2-documentations-techniques-technical-documentation/4-jupiter-catalogue-ancien/16-jupiter-h-trainard

      (you need JUPITER – H – PL46 – APPAREIL A RETOMBEE DANS LA PAS)

      If it is not obvious, gears 100 and 114 have the same number of teeth. The 66t and 70t gear would need to be cut at the same pitch diameter (probably that of a 68t gear).

      A 66t gear has factors of 2, 3, 11 (the 11 is for for 5.5mm or 11mm pitch threads). A 70t gear has factors of 2, 5 and 7 (the 5 is for 1.25mm and 2.5mm pitch threads; 7 is for 1.75mm and 3.5mm pitch threads).

      Assuming a standard 6mm pitch leadscrew, items 107 and 108 (double-sided) make sense (6 = 2 x 3, 11, 14 = 2 x 7, 10 = 2 x 5). Item 108 (17 divisions) baffles me completely. I could understand 16 divisions (4 x 4 for 8mm pitch but 17 is a prime number.

      I think the company is this one:

      https://www.somab.fr/en/pages/historique-hes-ernault-somua/

      Years ago John Stevenson mentioned a Russian lathe he had seen with interchangeable dials on the thread indicator and this is the only one I have ever seen close to that.

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      #790814
      Diogenes
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        @diogenes

        Interesting- could 17 divs be to do with some of the smaller pitches which include ?.35mm IIRC?

        Edit ? M1.6, 1.7, 1.8 ?

        #790835
        DC31k
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          @dc31k

          Thankyou.

          I think that for a 6mm pitch leadscrew, 0.35mm pitch falls into the same category (has the same indicator requirements) as 0.7mm, 1.75mm and 3.5mm, all needing a gear with a factor of seven.

          A dial with 17 divisions on top of a 70t gear would mean each division represented 70/17 teeth of the gear. One tooth of the gear represents 6mm (one leadscrew pitch) so each division measures ~ 24.70mm (420/17) which is a strange number.

          Similarly, on the other gear, 66/17 * 6 = 396/17 ~ 23.29mm, another strange number.

          Leadscrew indicator

          #790870
          Diogenes
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            @diogenes

            ?Module worm pitches?

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