Model of a WW1 tank made by German prisoners of war

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    Greensands
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      Following publication of the photo showing a 3D resin printed German tank in the current issue of the ME&W I thought forum members would be interested  to see how model making of a WW1 tank was done over 100 years ago. This model is of a British tank made out of brass and copper by German prisoners of war obviously using very basic tools and hammer and nail technique for the detailed engraving work. The model was brought back from WW1, possibly from the Cambrai  area, by my Grandfather who servedWW1 Tank (3)WW1 Tank (1)WW1 Tank (4)WW1 Tank (5)WW1 Tank (6)WW1 Tank (7) as a corporal in the RASC and has been in the family ever since.  Interesting to see how the world has progressed.

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      #790169
      Mick B1
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        To some of us it seems we’re ‘progressing’ back to the early 18th century… 🙁

        #790179
        Dusty
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          @dusty

          I suspect, and the evidence would suggest that this was in fact made by British prisoner of war in a German Camp.

          “World War” is in English and I doubt that a German Prisoner of war would have made the (engraving) in English.

          #790204
          SillyOldDuffer
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            On Dusty Said:

            I suspect, and the evidence would suggest that this was in fact made by British prisoner of war in a German Camp.

            “World War” is in English and I doubt that a German Prisoner of war would have made the (engraving) in English.

            We will never know!  But I doubt it was made by a German POW, and definitely not by one near Cambrai.  Prisoners were only temporarily kept near the front-line in very basic accommodation, and were soon dispersed to distant camps from which it was difficult to escape home.

            Unlikely to have been made by a POW,  not impossible, more likely by someone with access to materials.   The crude build suggests no workshop, so could well have been made in the trenches.   It was remarked that war is 99% boredom and 1% terror, so plenty of time to fill.

            The model probably predates the engravings, which were likely added after the war.   The term ‘World War’ didn’t catch on until after 1918, and nor did the poppies the tank is decorated with.   The battle names are all British, not German.   I think it’s genuine, but the backstory has been embellished by a POW.  The reality was probably more interesting: someone served, survived an appalling war, and cherished it as a remembrance.

            Dave

             

            #790225
            Grindstone Cowboy
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              @grindstonecowboy

              According to a BBC article from 2014, the Germans referred to it as “Weltkrieg” right from 1914, whereas the French and British used the term “Great War” or “La Grande Guerre”. Ref https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28057198

              Those tracks look like driving bands off a shell.

              Rob

              #790239
              Nicholas Farr
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                @nicholasfarr14254

                Hi, Remembrance poppy history

                Regards Nick.

                #790241
                Mick B1
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                  @mickb1
                  On Grindstone Cowboy Said:


                  Those tracks look like driving bands off a shell.

                  Rob

                  Nicely spotted – indeed they do! Must’ve been a dud, ’cause it looks like the grooves are rifling marks with a right-hand twist.

                  #790245
                  noel shelley
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                    @noelshelley55608

                    That it was a bud is open to debate, Holme beach was/ is littered with rounds some dud but many exploded where the driving bands are intact on the base of the projectile. I would agree that the question of who made it in view of the English words and the terminology of the time is more likely to be British. Noel.

                    #790258
                    Greensands
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                      @greensands

                      Perhaps some more knowledgeable person could expand on the function of a driving band fitted to an artillery shell.

                      #790270
                      Nicholas Farr
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                        @nicholasfarr14254

                        Hi Greensands, Driving Band (Wikipedia)

                        I didn’t know either.

                        Regards Nick

                        #790274
                        Nicholas Farr
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                          @nicholasfarr14254

                          Hi, there’s a picture of one of these tanks, in a visitor information board in a public park in a town near to where I live, don’t know if ithe picture is still there, as I took this photo back in 2010. My father would have probably seen this tank when has was about 10 ish, but I can’t ever remember him mentioning it.

                          WW1 Tank picture

                          Regards Nick.

                          #790278
                          Michael Callaghan
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                            @michaelcallaghan68621

                            The driving band expanded when the shell was fired. The band was then forced into the rifling of the barrel both sealing the propellant and putting the spin on the shell.

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