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  • #788752
    SillyOldDuffer
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      @sillyoldduffer

      Series starts 17 March at 20:00 on U&Yesterday (Freeview Channel 27 where I live).

      In the new series, multi-award-winning mechanical engineer and broadcaster, Dr Shini Somara (Tomorrow’s Food, BBC One) will turn to back copies of Practical Mechanics magazine – once the bible of British inventors – to challenge a dream design team to update its vintage blueprints for the 21st century.

      I have a few copies of Practical Mechanics as it approached the end in 1962.  Doesn’t impress me as ‘the bible of British inventors!  Possibly better in its heyday – anyone know?

      I shall watch the programme.  Never know, it might be a gem…

      Dave

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      #788753
      Michael Gilligan
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        @michaelgilligan61133

        Browse here:

        https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Practical-Mechanics.htm

        MichaelG.

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        Edit: __ based on this single issue, selected at random, I would have to say it knocks spots off ME&W for content !

        https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/Practical-Mechanics/50s/Practical-Mechanics-1958-02-S-OCR.pdf#search=%22nuclear%22

        #788756
        Mike Hurley
        Participant
          @mikehurley60381

          Worth a look, even if it only means it’s just simply something a bit different from the dross on most of the time. Mind you I imagine health & safety will probably sanitise everything so it doesn’t frighten the snowflake generation. (Before anyone gets on their high horse, I do fully approve of the majority of improvements that h&s has made over the years to save lives & cut injuries)

          I’ve just had a good chuckle watching another ‘old’ repeat series of James May doing all sorts of quite ridiculous challenges with Meccano, model aircraft, rockets etc. Totally silly, but still an enjoyable watch.

          We wait for this new series expectantly!

          #788941
          Grindstone Cowboy
          Participant
            @grindstonecowboy

            I have a number of copies of Practical Mechanics, given to me by the old gentleman who sold me my first ML7. Devised and edited by Frederick J. Camm, brother of Sydney Camm who designed the Hawker Hurricane, I believe. Full of interesting info and plans, the one that sticks in my mind was “Build your own Aqualung”, using ex-RAF oxygen bottles.

            Rob

            #788942
            duncan webster 1
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              @duncanwebster1
              On Mike Hurley Said:

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              …..I’ve e just had a good chuckle watching another ‘old’ repeat series of James May doing all sorts of quite ridiculous challenges with Meccano, model aircraft, rockets etc. Totally silly, but still an enjoyable watch.

              We wait for this new series expectantly!

              I just dropped on the one where he had OO gauge locos doing 10 miles. The German entry appeared to be driven by a model aeroplane engine with an electric transmission.OK it exploded, but if Neil could do enough research and find the makers it would make a fun article for ME&W

              #788951
              Bo’sun
              Participant
                @bosun58570

                Sounds like a worthy watch, apart from the b****y adverts.  You get time to make a cuppa, and drink it!

                #788960
                Clive Foster
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                  @clivefoster55965

                  Looking at Michael’s sample issue I’m impressed by the amount of “stuff” advertised.

                  As Michael says modern magazines are pale shadow of the norm in the 50’s and 60’s. The decline started to become noticeable in the 1970’s and by the mid 1980’s the DIY et al magazines where quite obviously different and chronically thinner. MEW being a typical example of something started in the new age with a fairly decently heavy content in the earlier days but comparative lightness became the norm.

                  Clearly there were enough readers to support the content in those days but, being a cynical type, I do wonder how many readers actually made featured things and how many were mere armchair enthusiasts. I suspect vastly more of the latter than the former. But it’s the readers and purchasers that make a magazine viable. Constructors are just the icing on the cake so long as there are enough buying things from the advertisers to make their business, and adverts viable.

                  My father took Do It Yourself (I think) magazine for many years which, if I recall childhood reading in the 1960’s focused mostly on woodworking things for the house. My recollection is that he made only a couple or three things from the magazine and, probably, picked up some tips for doing household jobs.

                  I still have the very nice sewing box on castors he made for mum.

                  I find it telling that he found it more sensible to install an early MFI fitted wardrobe kit when the post war economy stand alones became inadequate despite the, ahem, “un-wonderful” quality of the MFI offering. He was more than capable of making something far better.

                  Before I was around he built a very decent fitted kitchen from scratch. Never really followed why a modern kit got put in as a replacement around the later 1980’s but I do recall his version being very hard work to dismantle. Properly assembled jointed, glued and pinned framework cut nailed to the wall meant it wasn’t coming out without a major fight. So glad that Wolf had invented the Grindette (angle grinder) to deal with the cut nails that absolutely weren’t coming out this side of Armageddon.

                  Clive

                  #788985
                  Martin Connelly
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                    @martinconnelly55370

                    My suggestion Bo’sun, is to either record it with a PVR type box and just step rapidly through the adverts or just pause it at the adverts. Then you can go and do something else for five minutes and when you come back once again just step rapidly past the ads.

                    Martin C

                    #789294
                    Robert Atkinson 2
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                      @robertatkinson2

                      I’m watching this program (I recorded it). I’m about half way through and can’t believe they are making the body of a camping trailer from 18mm birch ply! Apart from the cost the thing must weigh a ton. Even the floor has closely spaced joists and noggins. At least it will be rigid… OMG even the internal cupboard is 18mm BP. This is on a single axle trailer frame. They will be close to 3500kg limit (assuming the chassis has that rating I can’t tell if it has over-run ) by the time it’s kitted out. 9mm BP would be fine for most of it and even 3 or 4 mm for things like cupboard doors.

                      #789315
                      peak4
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                        @peak4

                        I’ve not seen all the program, but there’s an IVA test now for new trailers in the UK, in a similar method to certifying new build kit cars.

                        https://www.ntta.co.uk/news/type-approval-and-iva-tests-for-trailers-in-the-uk-84

                         

                        Bill

                        #789328
                        Mike Hurley
                        Participant
                          @mikehurley60381

                          Watched it last night, I thought it rather tedious and pretty well gave up after 20 mins.

                          They seemed to be so excited with their new ‘invention’ but I couldn’t  stop thinking ‘why’ ? Essentially they were making something that in essence has been around for years in the caravan world.

                          Will watch the next episode with mild interest, but little expectation.

                          Mike

                          #789334
                          Robert Atkinson 2
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                            @robertatkinson2

                            They never showed the trailer on the road… They also had a concrete block unter the door to stop it tipping over.
                            Typical of modern TV programs allegedly promoting engineering. They are made for entertainment and run by producers who often know little about engineering.
                            Some years ago I was involved in a short series of programs that were supposed  to be prooming engineering and STEM. Lots of good video recorded with explainations of design decisions etc. What came out of the edit suite was the usual people hittig things with hammers and things going wrong. The producers seem to think little of the intelegence of their viewers. Maybe they are right but I hope not.

                            Robert.

                            #789340
                            jimmy b
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                              @jimmyb
                              On Michael Gilligan Said:

                              Browse here:

                              https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Practical-Mechanics.htm

                              MichaelG.

                              .

                              Edit: __ based on this single issue, selected at random, I would have to say it knocks spots off ME&W for content !

                              https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/Practical-Mechanics/50s/Practical-Mechanics-1958-02-S-OCR.pdf#search=%22nuclear%22

                              Excellent resource Michael!

                              The adverts are fascinating.

                               

                              Thank you.

                               

                              Jimb

                              #789341
                              Nicholas Farr
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                                @nicholasfarr14254
                                On Bo’sun Said:

                                Sounds like a worthy watch, apart from the b****y adverts.  You get time to make a cuppa, and drink it!

                                Hi Bo’sun, that’s why I record such programmes, as I can fast forward all the adverts.

                                Regards Nick.

                                #789342
                                Nicholas Farr
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                                  @nicholasfarr14254
                                  On jimmy b Said:
                                  On Michael Gilligan Said:

                                  Browse here:

                                  https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Practical-Mechanics.htm

                                  MichaelG.

                                  .

                                  Edit: __ based on this single issue, selected at random, I would have to say it knocks spots off ME&W for content !

                                  https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/Practical-Mechanics/50s/Practical-Mechanics-1958-02-S-OCR.pdf#search=%22nuclear%22

                                  Excellent resource Michael!

                                  The adverts are fascinating.

                                   

                                  Thank you.

                                   

                                   

                                  Hi Jimb, yes that is a excellent resource, being using it for a few years, and have even contributed to it a couple or so times. I got many copies of Practical Wireless from there, that I lost many years ago.

                                  Regards Nick.

                                  #789343
                                  Ian Hewson
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                                    @ianhewson99641

                                    Watched 10min, switch off, nuff sed.

                                    Ian

                                    #789364
                                    KenL
                                    Participant
                                      @kenl

                                      Abolute drivel intended as cheap entertainment for the masses.

                                      The so called “caravan” would have self-destructed within 15 minutes of towing around the M25 and was totally impractical for anything other than putting in the garden for the kids to use as a toy – and even then it was full of hazards for any kids using it as such.

                                      The sledge was a little better conceived but still impractical.

                                      Overall I thought it was an insult to the legacy of “Practical Mechanics”.

                                      I won’t be watching it again.

                                      #789393
                                      bernard towers
                                      Participant
                                        @bernardtowers37738

                                        After all your comments I won’t bother theres too much muppet tv as it is

                                        #789402
                                        duncan webster 1
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                                          @duncanwebster1

                                          Typical TV rubbish, don’t waste your time.

                                          #789409
                                          File Handle
                                          Participant
                                            @filehandle

                                            I watched it as there was little else. I hadn’t expected much, but it was even worse. Sad!

                                            #789411
                                            SillyOldDuffer
                                            Moderator
                                              @sillyoldduffer

                                              An opportunity missed, I thought, for the reasons stated above!  I suspect TV people are trained to dumb programmes down in hope of achieving mass appeal, and get it wrong.  Might improve so I will watch it again.

                                              Not the worst example of dumb TV this week.  Watched about 10 minutes of a speed chess programme where it was impossible to follow the moves! Instead a load of blather about the players, the game didn’t matter.   Hard to see how chess presented that way could appeal to anyone!

                                              Good TV on anything technical is as rare as hens teeth!  Best I recall was an Equinox documentary on racing car engines broadcast in the eighties.

                                              Dave

                                              #789511
                                              Nicholas Farr
                                              Participant
                                                @nicholasfarr14254

                                                Hi, well I though it was fairly interesting, as they looked at a project from the 50’s, and using modern materials and tools to produce something similar to what the original author had written. Looking at the original publication,  the chassis was made from 1-1/2″ x 1-1/2″ x 3/16″ angle iron, (40 x 40 x 5mm in todays size) bolted and welded together, and the cabin was made from wooden battens and boarded on both sides with Hardboard. Builders barrow wheels were altered to suit Austen 7 stub axles. Although in the programme, their version was simplified somewhat, but I think the point was that the programme proved that such a product could be produced.

                                                As far as towing around the M25 and falling apart, there were no motorways built back in 1957, although the Preston Bypass had started construction by the time the original publication was on sale, so whether the original design would have stood up to motorway speeds I don’t know, but of course you are only allowed to drive up to 60 MPH, and you are not allowed to use the right hand lane on a three or more lane motorway when towing a trailer of any sort.

                                                The trailer in the programme probably wouldn’t be suitable for use on public roads, but I think it shows that such a suitable product like it, could be made in a home workshop, that would fulfil current regulations for use on public roads.

                                                Regards Nick.

                                                #789600
                                                Robert Atkinson 2
                                                Participant
                                                  @robertatkinson2

                                                  They didn’t use modern materials at all. I’d suggest that melamine faced MDF on outside and inside a frame with insulation inbetween would be a much better solution. Light weight and rigid. available in 3mm or 6mm you can even get it with a beaded pattern moulded in.

                                                   

                                                  #789606
                                                  Robert Atkinson 2
                                                  Participant
                                                    @robertatkinson2

                                                    Just had an other episode on while doing smething else. They can’t even get history right. Apparently the electric linear actuator was invented in 1979! Someone better tell Plessey. Here’s an ad from 1951:
                                                    actuators

                                                    I’m sure I could find a WWII example but I can’t be bothered.
                                                    But the internet says Bent Jensen invented it in 1979 so it must be true.. Or a good bit of marketing by Jensen’s company Linak.

                                                    They were supposed to have an automatically lowering stabiliser on a bike. The electronics expert cound not get a wheel speed sensor working so the rider had to operate a switch. Perhaps because the magnet and Hall effect sensors were about 70mm apart and not lined up…..

                                                    Robert.

                                                    #789612
                                                    KEITH BEAUMONT
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                                                      @keithbeaumont45476

                                                      In 1956 I made the Aqualung featured in Practical Mechanics. from ex RAF Nitrogen tanks x2. The Demand Valve was converted from a Calor gas valve. Tubing was all ex RAF. It worked quite well down to about 50ft, but had a habbit of suddenly giving you a mouthful of water.

                                                      Keith

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