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    Paul Lousick
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      @paullousick59116

      The Decline of Model Engeneering Workshop

      Model Engineer and Model Engineering Workshop has now been amalgamated into just one entity. Is this because there are less people interested in engineering and have found other hobbies ?

      Recent posts on this site are now talking about painting houses, blueberries and heat pumps which have nothing to do with model engineering. There are other sites for these subjects.

      Is ME&W now to be renamed MEWHG (Model Engineer, Worksop, House & Garden) ????

      If this site is to remain, please keep the content about engineering or some patrons may lose interest and it will disappear like some other sites.

      Just my opinion (who else agrees ?),  Paul

       

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      #787946
      John Hinkley
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        @johnhinkley26699

        Not me, for one.  I think that you will find that the subjects which you quote as non-engineering are posted in the “Tea room” section.  A perfectly acceptable place to raise such questions in my opinion.  No “talking shop” in those sorts of places, I would imagine – I have never worked in such an environment.

        Oh and by the way, as far as I know, the magazine was not called Model Engineering Workshop (or Worksop) it was always “Engineers’ “.

        John

         

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        Nigel Graham 2
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          @nigelgraham2

          The two magazines have returned to something rather as “Model Engineer” alone used to be, once it had dropped the “& Electrician” from its title aeons ago. Give it a bit of time to bed in!

           

          Regarding this site, we do have interests and lives alongside model-engineering, and the “Tea-room” is an apt place for discussing those. Do the lunch-breaks or tea-and-natter sessions within your model-engineering society gatherings stick to arguing carbide-v-HSS and how to design blast-pipes? I’d be surprised if they do!

          Actually my own club does more gardening than engineering on its site – as we do joke self-deprecatingly about – but most of our metalworking is at home in our own workshops; and we use the club site with its railways and lots of room for traction-engines to operate or display our creative efforts.

          Most of this web-site IS shop-talk and obviously so by the separate Forum titles; but most of us do enjoy some relief now and then from that.

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          Paul Lousick
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            @paullousick59116

            Fair enough, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I did not realize it was posted in the tea room.

            #787960
            Nick Wheeler
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              @nickwheeler

              I don’t agree either, for two reasons:

              1. There aren’t two forum members/subscribers who can agree what Model Engineering actually includes. It’s a terrible term for what many of us do.

               

              2. Forums that do restrict their content like that are mind numbingly dull. The rare posts tend to be either a new member whose voice is drowned by the echoing silence, or posts that continue an argument that was started in the fifth ever post decades ago and continued by three long term members with four opposing views.***

               

               

              *** yes, I know, four doesn’t go into three. But the whole thing got so dogmatic that the three regularly assume Cranky Cyril’s arguments since he died.

              #787963
              Paul Kemp
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                @paulkemp46892

                Paul,

                Paul, I don’t fundamentally disagree with you.  Just looked and out of the 25 latest replies, 6 were under the tea room heading so just shy of 25% of latest responses are under that theme.  Tea room posts on here often concentrate on stuff that I would expect to find on Facebook from my limited experience of that medium and the reason I don’t engage with it.  90% of posts on TT are restricted to road steam / events and I don’t find that mind numbingly dull, it’s the subject matter I expect to find there and why I visit..  I like to see what people are doing and how they are doing it, hoping to learn from their experience, learn about the history of the stuff they are working on, how manufacturers approached various issues etc.  I visit TT every day, seldom look here.  Maybe Tea Room should feature in the title?

                Can’t speak for the book, haven’t bought it for years.

                Paul.

                #787965
                Paul Lousick
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                  @paullousick59116

                  Hi Paul. I didn’t see that the posts were from the tea room and maybe overreacted but I have noticed that there are more posts going off on a tangent from what the original post was about. Viewers do not read the whole storey before posting a comment. Maybe I am just getting more critical. (apparently it happens as you get older and lose your inabitions)

                   

                  #787966
                  Diogenes
                  Participant
                    @diogenes

                    I have some sympathy, Paul, the answer of course is to try and steer content back on track with comment or material, even if it’s a quick photo & couple of lines in ‘What Did You Do Today’..

                    #787968
                    Paul Lousick
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                      @paullousick59116

                      Thanks Diogenes (I assume not your real name). Spent some time in the workshop, finishing off some tooling to make life easier. Will post later when complete. Cheers.

                      #787977
                      JasonB
                      Moderator
                        @jasonb

                        As I said in the Kelsey thread and I’ve said elsewhere anyone wanting a forum on making models which is the heart of “Model Engineering” is not that well served by this one.

                        Of 25 latest posts Dean’s 24cc engine is the only one about making a model and there is little other comment in that apart from his own posts, something I find with my builds too where they seem to create less interest than the latest windows rant of spam email.

                        On the other hand somewhere like MEM is far more foucused. 80% of new posts overnight were in build threads,10% a new member and 10% someone showing a new bit of tooling. You will find similar figures on HMEM too. They both have tea room type sections but they get used far less as the members seem to actually be doing what their forum names suggest M. ENGINE MAKER and H. MODEL ENGINE MACHINIST

                        When the powers above use forum activity figures to try and get ads and upgrades in software they don’t care about what the post are about just the numbers so quantity wins over quality.

                        #787979
                        Robert Atkinson 2
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                          @robertatkinson2

                          The big advantage of posting on things like heat pumps in this forums “tea room” is that any responses will come form people with at least a passing interest in engineering. Not something you can say about most social medis sites…….

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