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    Duff Machinist
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      @duffmachinist36701

      Howdo,

       

      I finally gotten around to fixing up a 1942 dated Delta drill press. It’s all in good condition bar the spindle bearings – they are completely knackered.

       

      Does anyone know where I can get hold of suitable replacements, or if not available, any work around such as adapting modern spindle bearings?

       

      The bearings are listed on one or two American sites, but their cost and no doubt shipping and import charges are/will be rather silly. An example of the bearings can be found here http://www.hammerscale.com/HTML/Products/bearings.html

       

      I’m based in France , if that means anything.

       

      Many thanks.

       

      Cheers,

      Duff.

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      #772909
      JasonB
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        @jasonb

        Looks like they are fitting sleeves to standard bearings, do you have the facilities to make your own sleeves?

        #772911
        Diogenes
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          @diogenes

          You need to establish what size the bearings are  – I imagine they will be an Imperial size.

          You can do this from a bearing number if there is one – usually etched around the ‘face’ edge of one of the races.

          If not, measure the inner hole diameter, the outer diameter, and the depth/thickness.

          Then what seals or shields are fitted – metal shields are most likely in a drill press, on one or both sides?

           

           

          #772914
          JasonB
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            @jasonb

            They are not a standard shape, look at the link.

            Originals most likely had a custom inner race as the volume produced made it worth doing. The replacements shown suggest that the company is sleeving bearings to replicate the old ones.

            #772937
            Diogenes
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              @diogenes

              Aha – apologies, I looked at the main photo and they are standard bearings with sleeves in.

              Still wouldn’t hurt to know the sizes as measured from the housings /shaft / sleeves.

              #772950
              Nicholas Farr
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                @nicholasfarr14254

                Hi, the bearings look similar to 1100 or 1300 self-lube bearing inserts, but without the slots, which if push comes to shove, could be cut with a thick cutting dise in a small angle grinder.

                1100 bearings

                1300 bearing

                The photo below is of a RHP 1″ 1100 insert.

                1100 self-lube

                Regards Nick.

                #772953
                Robert Atkinson 2
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                  @robertatkinson2

                  Duff,

                  What size is the drill press? it looks like only the 14″ model used the bearings with extended inner races. Have you pulled the old bearings and if you have do they have any numbers on them?

                  Robert.

                  #772957
                  noel shelley
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                    @noelshelley55608

                    on the No 14 6205 ZZ bearing with sleeves or bushes seems what is done. IF so then these are cheap and worth an experiment – do you have access to a lathe ? Plan B would be to try some of the redundant stock bearing suppliers but it could be costly. As Robert has said, get the old bearings out and see what you have. Good luck. Noel.

                    #773125
                    Howard Lewis
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                      @howardlewis46836

                      Arc Euro Trade quote 6205ZZ, if that is what you need.  They are likely to cost you about 4 Euros each, plus shipping, if that is any help

                      Howard

                      #773364
                      Duff Machinist
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                        @duffmachinist36701

                        Thanks for all your replies everyone – it’s much appreciated. …and yes Robert, it’s a 14″ model – sorry for the omission.

                        I haven’t removed the bearings yet as the retaining rings are proving very stubborn, and I don’t want to butcher the thing, so no direct measurements at the moment. Nonetheless, I removed a load of gunk to reveal some writing on the inner race which reads “C88100” “NEW DEPARTURE” “MADE IN USA”. I managed to locate a New Departure catalogue from 1959, and an excerpt for the 88100 bearing, giving the measurements, is attached below.

                        I do know that the inner race is a friction fit, while the outer is a ‘slip’ fit, if that’s a technical term, i.e., once the retaining ring has been removed, the bearing can be simply pulled out without too much effort.

                        I have presumed that the extension has been machined from the inner race and then assembled into a bearing. Please ignore the comment “gap?” given in one of the photos – the notched extension spins within that “gap”.

                        I like Nicholas’ idea (thanks Nicholas), but so far I’ve not found any insert bearings with the appropriate combined dimensions. I don’t really want to go the ‘press fit’ route as getting the tolerances right might be difficult, especially as I will be press fitting the spindle into a press fit extension, but realise this may be the only way forward. If I have to go this route then the most important dimension will the outer diameter of the bearing (which unfortunately appears to be an odd size, although a shim could be used of course). The inner dimension will depend on the thickness of the extension sleeve to be press fit so there is leeway there. …unless I’m missing something.

                        When I’m able to get the thing out, I’ll post piccies of the assembly in case it’s useful for someone else with the same issue, and I’ll probably cut one of the old bearings down the middle to see how it’s constructed. That may be a little while, so the attached photos will have to suffice! Note that a part of one of the bearing extensions has sheared off (old damage) and the two keys/teeth on the collar are quite worn (only one spindle collar came with the machine, so I’ll have to machine at least another one once I get my lathe back together). Ah, the joys of free, second-hand equipment!

                        …or maybe I’ll pass the whole thing on as parts, and invest in a drill press that can also mill (also known as a milling machine). :-/

                         

                        Cheers,

                        Duff.

                         

                        Bearing 1Bearing 2CollarNew Departure Hyatt Ball Bearing Catalog A259 (1959) pg 44

                        #773406
                        noel shelley
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                          @noelshelley55608

                          With the dimensions being almost imperial round numbers one might be able to use a standard bearing with a bit of work and loctite. 5/8″ Id and 1 3/8″ Od. Noel.

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