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    Roger Hart
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      @rogerhart88496

      I have an old J E Baty (marked HI-TECH) gauge marked .0001″.  It was very sticky and after a good clean it sort of works OK but.

      The return to zero is a bit unreliable,  seems to be affected by how far or fast it returns when it will shift the return reading by about 5/10ths thou.

      I have some experience with small mechanisms and made sure all wheel teeth were clean and the dial needle is firmly ‘on’.

      There is some sort of friction/safety clutch on the measuring rod to gear train 1st wheel which looks to be the only source of variability.

      Any ideas?

       

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      #771603
      roy entwistle
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        @royentwistle24699

        have you lubricated it? if so what with?

        #771621
        Roger Hart
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          @rogerhart88496

          Yes,  with watch oil

          #771639
          bernard towers
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            @bernardtowers37738

            I have rebuilt a couple of dial gauges an found they work better with no lube IMHO

            #771670
            roy entwistle
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              @royentwistle24699

              wipe the oil off the pivots and plunger with a tissue and try again

              #771675
              SillyOldDuffer
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                @sillyoldduffer

                Though it might only need a clean and a tiny drop of light oil, an old DTI could also be worn, or more likely, the innards are bent due to being bumped or dropped.   A powerful loupe might see the damage, better a microscope.  Small flaws matter to delicate instruments working in the tenths region.

                Maybe bad maintenance in the past.  Clocks are famously damaged by over oiling.   The oil attracts dust and becomes abrasive, and then gums up.   The mechanism literally grinds to a halt, and then the bearings have to be replaced.  The old ones have enough slop to upset the gears.

                How elaborate was the clean?  Clocks and watches are stripped down completely and the parts put through an elaborate sequence of agitated chemical cleaners, and inspected for damage, especially the pivots, before reassembly.  Iffy parts are replaced.   I think a tenths DTI would need a similar deep clean.

                Dave

                 

                 

                 

                #771688
                Roger Hart
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                  @rogerhart88496

                  Thanks all.  I stripped the mechanism and cleaned again.  Also removed plunger rod (which seemed OK) and found some sticky goo on it (laziness!).  Cleaned rod and rack and replaced.  No oil this time.  Seems much better,  a 1/10ths DTI does seem a bit more fussy – but worth persevering.

                  Will return to testing after the hols – family stuff calls.  Merry Christmas all.

                   

                  #771723
                  Nigel Graham 2
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                    @nigelgraham2

                    Thankyou for this thread – I have a DTI with reluctant return action so will take that advice, too!

                    #771758
                    Clive Foster
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                      @clivefoster55965

                      Nigel

                      Rule one with fixing DTI is clean, clean, clean, clean again and polish the plunger rod.

                      Clive

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